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[15:15:11] <skunkworks> Thank you - very much :)
[15:16:13] <skunkworks> cradek: did what I said about the preview make sense?
[15:16:49] <cradek> yes I get it now
[15:17:21] <cradek> can you set your monitor on its side instead?
[15:17:50] <skunkworks> heh
[15:18:03] <skunkworks> I could - but then I would have to read sideways ;)
[15:18:29] <cradek> I'm not really sure how it would work - currently in perspective view you can't look from 'under' the work because that's confusing
[15:18:43] <cradek> I'm not sure what the corresponding thing would be for a horizontal
[15:19:11] <cradek> is the natural preview the one you'd see standing with your back to the spindle looking forward at the workpiece?
[15:20:36] <skunkworks> the screen would be in front of the machine - so the it would show the point of the cone going away from you
[15:21:31] <cradek> which way does the screen/user face?
[15:23:26] <skunkworks> The closest to what would look normal would be the First Z view - now if I could rotate that so that i could be looking down on it from the upper left... If that makes sense
[15:26:14] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
[15:27:21] <cradek> that looks so useless - you can't reach the controls and the machine at the same time no matter how limber you are
[15:27:27] <skunkworks> if you moved the guy so he was standing on the rigth side of the y axis facing you
[15:27:57] <skunkworks> right
[15:27:59] <cradek> so the spindle is behind him over his right shoulder?
[15:28:23] <skunkworks> no - so he could reach out and touch the spindle with his right hand
[15:30:39] <cradek> errr could you take a picture sometime of the setup with the operator (haha) and the new console?
[15:31:18] <cradek> don't forget your tie and lab coat and brylcreem
[15:38:28] <skunkworks> heh
[15:38:33] <skunkworks> Yes - I can do that
[15:40:03] <alex_joni> haha, looking forward to that
[15:41:20] <alex_joni> skunkworks: a bow tie is also appropriate
[15:41:30] <alex_joni> just don't pick one that you can't tie yourself
[15:41:42] <skunkworks> is clip-on ok?
[15:41:49] <alex_joni> definately not
[15:42:14] <alex_joni> one of these:
http://www.esquire.com/cm/esquire/images/FH/tie-a-bow-tie-0508-lg.jpg
[15:46:29] <alex_joni> mozmck: yay for 10.04 ;)
[15:47:00] <skunkworks> yay!
[15:49:01] <mozmck> yeah! I just saw the email a bit ago.
[15:49:08] <mozmck> That's great!
[15:56:33] <skunkworks> cradek: the current perspective would have us sitting in the pit on the left side of the machine (looking at the picture) looking up and to the left at the tombstone ;)
[15:56:51] <skunkworks> kinda
[15:57:52] <skunkworks> well - i think I would have to be laying on my back under the x/z table. ;)
[15:59:09] <jthornton_> jthornton_ is now known as jthornton
[16:42:22] <KimK> skunkworks, cradek: It occurs to me (because of your discussion about AXIS display orientation) that if you could set the display orientation in a very flexible manner (pick one of 6 directions as "up", 4 remaining possible directions as "forward"?), that it might also be useful for those who have lathes that are upside-down, backwards, vertical, upside-down-vertical, etc..
[17:27:47] <CIA-5> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.4_branch * r28dbe2b931fb 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/ (pncconf.glade pncconf.py): Add usb joystick jog option
[17:27:49] <CIA-5> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.4_branch * r534c92709b1d 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/ (pncconf.glade pncconf.py): add option to set joystick jog speed with buttons
[17:30:18] <CIA-5> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.4_branch * ra79585fc5fb3 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/ (pncconf.glade pncconf.py): add ability to search for pncconf made device rules
[17:30:19] <CIA-5> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.4_branch * r7d8ecad97737 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf-help/help-extcontrols.txt: Update help page for USB joystick jogging
[17:30:19] <CIA-5> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.4_branch * r5180334d3f7b 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/ (pncconf-help/help-extcontrols.txt pncconf.glade pncconf.py): Merge branch 'joystick' into v2.4_branch
[18:00:59] <alex_joni> skunkworks: it's 'axes' not 'axis' :P
[18:01:56] <Jymmm> upsidedown lathe? What, is it mounted to the ceiling???
[18:02:28] <Jymmm> * Jymmm burries the hatch in alex_joni skull - Almost Halloween!!!
[18:30:20] <skunkworks> alex_joni: thanks :)
[18:40:23] <alex_joni> skunkworks: getting hard these days.. :P
[18:43:02] <skunkworks> ?
[18:43:58] <alex_joni> to find typos in what you write
[18:49:43] <micges> alex_joni: is there was yemc gui to emc?
[18:52:00] <skunkworks> alex_joni: aww - that is sweet. Thanks :)
[19:02:03] <alex_joni> micges: yes, there was
[19:02:21] <alex_joni> but it was pretty bad, very similar to xemc, only changed to support 6 axes
[19:02:25] <alex_joni> and colored blue
[19:02:39] <micges> xemc is also blue :D
[19:03:43] <alex_joni> ok then
[19:04:57] <moopy> i want zemc
[19:05:13] <micges> somebody is still using xemc?
[19:05:40] <moopy> i think green would be better color though
[19:06:14] <alex_joni> micges: probably yes
[19:06:17] <alex_joni> but not from emc2
[19:06:24] <alex_joni> I find that hard to believe
[19:07:07] <moopy> alex_joni: have you any new sources for genserkins?
[19:07:09] <micges> maybe we can mark it as obsolete
[19:07:40] <alex_joni> moopy: nope, why?
[19:08:09] <moopy> i still have not worked out why my simulationis not working
[19:09:13] <alex_joni> well, the simulation should work even if you run trivkins
[19:10:18] <moopy> i will post some code later if anyone can try it?
[19:11:10] <andypugh-iPhone> I am not entirely sure how this interface will work.
[19:12:56] <andypugh-iPhone> Weird issue in a forum post. Sluggish and erratic jogging fixed by changing rotary axis limits to 0-360 from 0-3600
[19:14:59] <andypugh-iPhone> Ah. Ok. So switching apps takes me "away"...
[20:26:53] <LawrenceG> I thought there was a strip chart component for pyvcp... anyone remember where this might be?
[20:28:11] <LawrenceG> wiki search and my older copy of pyvcp_widgets.py dont seem to have it
[20:29:46] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: This?
http://linuxcnc.org/handbook/part2/emcstripchart.html
[20:29:58] <andypugh-iPhone> I have never seen one. Nor mention of one. That does not mean a lot, mind you.
[20:31:06] <LawrenceG> That is interesting Jymmm .... seems to be a standalone pgm
[20:33:50] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: That's all I can find =(
[20:34:41] <Jymmm> LawrenceG: and this
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:NBI2gO4XRUIJ:wiki.linuxcnc.org/emcinfo.pl%3FPyVCP+pyvcp_widgets.py+site:wiki.linuxcnc.org&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
[20:36:45] <awallin> tom3p did a pyvcp chart widget I think, but is was never in svn/git (I think)
[20:37:13] <LawrenceG> http://gspy.sourceforge.net/gspy.jpg something like the lower right chart on this page
[20:38:00] <awallin> I think it was fairly simple drawing in a canvas widget, pixel by pixel
[20:39:23] <LawrenceG> awallin, thanks... they are not that hard.... bit blit the old data one pixel to the left and draw a line of the new data on the right... I will play and see if I can figure one out
[20:40:33] <LawrenceG> maybe tom3p will read this later
[22:45:37] <CIA-5> EMC: 03cmorley 07v2.4_branch * rd7dc1300b942 10/src/emc/usr_intf/pncconf/pncconf.py: fix illegal filename characters in USB device rule name
[23:53:10] <cradek> N20280G02X471.352Y347.319I-993196421721.305J452300717872.685F840.000
