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[07:45:34] <psha> micges_work: hi
[07:46:36] <micges_work> psha: hi
[07:46:44] <micges_work> few moments ;)
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[08:04:57] <psha> btw, there was bug reported on forum
[08:05:05] <psha> G00 X61.191611 Y58.064341 Z-1.278559
[08:05:05] <psha> G03 X61.164566 Y58.050807 Z-1.229220 I47330.301901 J-94585.894741 F400
[08:05:20] <psha> theese lines result in Huge movement
[08:05:27] <psha> instread of ~0.03 arc
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[08:47:35] <psha> btw is it possible to draw full circle with G02/G03?
[08:49:40] <micges_work> yes
[08:50:09] <micges_work> that bug is known
[08:54:11] <psha> i've tested with smaller values and this provides correct arc
[08:54:13] <psha> G02 X10 Y0.0001 I10 F1000
[08:54:15] <psha> and this - full
[08:54:18] <psha> G02 X10 Y0.00001 I10 F1000
[08:56:42] <psha> there is rounding somewhere?
[09:06:55] <micges_work> 0.0001 is smallest difference in interp calculation
[09:08:27] <micges_work> src/emc/rs274ngc/see interp_internal.h
[09:16:12] <psha> hm, it's not absolute value
[09:16:17] <psha> G02 X10 Y0.001 I1000 F1000
[09:16:21] <psha> this one provides full arc
[09:16:39] <psha> ah
[09:16:42] <psha> stupid me
[09:16:43] <psha> thanks
[09:16:49] <psha> #define TOLERANCE_EQUAL 0.0001 /* two numbers compare EQ if the
[09:16:51] <psha> this one?
[09:17:20] <psha> is not it too large?
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[14:15:29] <psha[work]> SWPadnos: loggers are dead again
[14:15:55] <psha[work]> bb
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[15:22:28] <jepler> I just can't fathom why people want to do stuff like count quadrature on microcontrollers instead of using one of the FPGA-based cards that already exist
[15:23:12] <jepler> It's interesting to know that some newish AVR devices like the AVR XMEGA A1 family have hardware quadrature counters -- but only 3, not enough to run 3 axes plus a spindle
[15:23:48] <Jymmm> use two of them?
[15:24:11] <jepler> but by the time you go to XMEGA you get almost all the hassles of FPGAs -- I/Os that are not 5V tolerant, surface-mount only packages, ...
[15:24:19] <SWPadnos> it always sounds like it'll be less expensive, because the chips themselves are $10 or less
[15:24:50] <SWPadnos> people forget the connectors, like Jon E mentioned, plus the boards and all the other components
[15:25:17] <skunkworks> and getting it to work correctly
[15:25:28] <SWPadnos> well, someone else will do that :)
[15:26:39] <Jymmm> I elect SWPadnos, all in favor?
[15:26:54] <SWPadnos> you obviously missed the word "else" ;)
[15:26:56] <jepler> Two XMEGA128A1s will cost you more than 1 XC3S200A
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[15:27:46] <SWPadnos> that's the other bit that people forget - boards made in bulk have lower component cost than buying from DigiKey or something
[15:27:59] <Jymmm> I should go over to xilinx and ask for samples by the handful =)
[15:28:07] <SWPadnos> I don't know if I could buy all the components to populate a 7i43 for less than the 7i43 costs
[15:28:10] <jepler> yeah, I'm looking at qty1 prices; I dunno if the equation changes much with quantity discounts
[15:28:31] <SWPadnos> maybe not from DK, but certainly if someone is building 100 or 1000 of something, it would
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[15:43:56] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: So, how long were you stuck at SFO?
[15:44:02] <Jymmm> brb, coffee
[15:44:07] <SWPadnos> overnight
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[15:52:15] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: you should have just picked up the phone, or did you visit family while in town?
[15:52:33] <SWPadnos> I called my cousin, who lives in SF
[15:52:47] <SWPadnos> I stayed at the airport hotel they paid for :)
[15:53:08] <Jymmm> canceled flight?
[15:53:38] <SWPadnos> no, the flight from LAX was delayed due to a mechanical problem, so I missed my connection
[15:53:44] <SWPadnos> most of the people there had fog issues
[15:54:15] <SWPadnos> I was one of the lucky ones, since it wasn't weather related, so the airline was on the hook
[15:54:34] <Jymmm> ah
[15:54:46] <SWPadnos> what are you doing next Thursday?
[15:54:49] <SWPadnos> (I think)
[15:54:54] <SWPadnos> yeah, Thursday
[15:55:28] <Jymmm> "I'm going to Disneyland!" Um, sleeping?
[15:55:41] <SWPadnos> or Wednesday. I may be in town Wed-Fri, so I can go to a short conference on Thursday in Santa Clara
[15:56:08] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: Cool!!!
[15:56:29] <Jymmm> SWPadnos: did you see my "teddy bear"?
[15:56:37] <SWPadnos> on granite?
[15:56:39] <Jymmm> y
[15:56:44] <SWPadnos> yep. cool
[15:56:49] <Jymmm> =)
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[15:57:37] <Jymmm> so what day?
[15:57:56] <Jymmm> do you want to get together?
[15:58:24] <SWPadnos> I need to check the fares again, but I bet Wednesday would owrk best
[15:58:26] <SWPadnos> work
[15:58:36] <Jymmm> wed evening?
[15:58:45] <SWPadnos> yeah, I think so
[15:59:03] <SWPadnos> flights usually arrive around 1, 3, or 5 PM I think
[15:59:11] <Jymmm> SJC?
[15:59:14] <SWPadnos> I don't know if I'll fly to SFO ot SJC though
[15:59:18] <Jymmm> k
[15:59:41] <SWPadnos> SJC is weird now, they only have flights (on United) to Denver and Seattle or something - no Chicago flights any more
[15:59:58] <Jymmm> If you hit SJC, I'll pick you up from the ap
[16:00:06] <SWPadnos> cool, thanks
[16:00:35] <SWPadnos> I may stay at the Hilton Santa Clara - the one on Great America Parkway. The event is at the convention center there
[16:00:54] <Jymmm> remind me though, I forget > 5m anymore
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[16:01:02] <Jymmm> Yeah, I know whee it is
[16:01:02] <SWPadnos> that's pretty close to the airport, so less chance of losing my cell phone in a cab ;)
[16:01:07] <Jymmm> lol
[16:01:41] <Jymmm> duct tape it in a 4" x 12" pvc pipe attached to your body
[16:02:18] <SWPadnos> funny thing - my phone came off in a cab here a week or two ago. The driver had left me his card, so I called him up. he came back to give it to me, at about 1:30 AM in the snow. I gave him $20 for beer and pizza, and he tried to refuse it
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[16:02:43] <Jymmm> Nice guy.
[16:03:06] <SWPadnos> kind of the opposite of the guy at SJC who didn't call in the fare, didn't give me his information, and asked for a reward when I finally got him on (my) phone, then ended up not bothering to bring the phone back
[16:03:31] <Jymmm> *sigh*
[16:04:11] <Jymmm> your guy must be an independant having his own crds
[16:04:29] <SWPadnos> it's probably a small company, but it isn't just him
[16:04:44] <SWPadnos> he talked to the owner, who didn't want to come back to the airport from the bars :)
[16:04:49] <Jymmm> most cabbies dont have busness cards I mean
[16:04:50] <SWPadnos> (while I was in the car)
[16:05:16] <SWPadnos> well, it was the company card, I guess he had the number forwarded to his cell or something, since he was on duty
[16:05:16] <Jymmm> heh
[16:05:52] <Jymmm> ah, I had that once in Flagstaff, pickup the courtesy phoen and your talking to the driver directly
[16:05:59] <SWPadnos> cool
[16:06:58] <Jymmm> They had their radios linked to their phone system (I asked)
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[17:24:06] <psha> archivist: have you worked with docbook-xsl?
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[17:33:36] <psha> that's strange question but you've mentioned that you've worked with xml (and in that context it was docbook) in http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/1315/focus=1316
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[17:46:21] <psha> jepler: here?
[17:46:42] <psha> i need your advice :)
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[17:51:16] <jepler> psha: for a few minutes
[18:08:45] <psha> i've recently posted link to example rst document with to included parts
[18:09:03] <psha> with messed TOC if incorrect symbols are used
[18:13:09] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/tmp/adoc/main.html
[18:13:17] <psha> here is same example for asciidoc
[18:13:27] <psha> yes, it's harder to mess sections as in rst
[18:13:51] <psha> but parts rendered worse: http://psha.org.ru/tmp/adoc/part1.html
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[18:14:16] <psha> instead of treating first section as top-level one it's handling it like in whole document
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[18:33:53] <jepler> so what's the question?
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[18:36:21] <psha> what's better?
[18:36:40] <psha> live in fear of broken TOC but with proper separate pages
[18:36:58] <psha> or have always good toc but all subpages rendered with lower level of sections
[18:37:13] <psha> i'm trying to add cross-document links to asciidoc now
[18:37:25] <psha> and then i'll try to add them to rst
[18:38:20] <psha> i guess that was most important requirement? proper cross-part links?
[18:42:52] <SWPadnos> I think what's important depends on the output type
[18:43:21] <SWPadnos> cross-doc links are important for HTML output, but a correct TOC is more important for PDF
[18:44:23] <psha> SWPadnos: broken TOC is not an error - so it's nearly impossible to check it when building docs
[18:44:34] <psha> under broken i mean this
[18:44:40] <psha> http://psha.org.ru/tmp/rst/main.html
[18:45:05] <psha> both part1 and part2 are correct rst docs
[18:45:21] <psha> but when they are included in one doc - toc is screwed
[18:45:37] <SWPadnos> yep. that would be hard to check
[18:45:44] <SWPadnos> automatically anyway
[18:46:20] <jepler> so rst doesn't define ~~ to be one level of heading and -- to be a different one -- it's determined by the document's structure?
[18:47:45] <psha> yes
[18:48:18] <psha> that's really simplifies writing standalone docs
[18:49:41] <psha> but for multipart it may be not good...
[18:52:28] <psha> but really - it's not that bad
[18:54:35] <psha> document structure is defined pretty early so there is no prob compared to case where underline chars are not defined
[19:01:19] <psha> with asciidoc it's possible to update xref's in docbook intermidiate stage from global link table
[19:01:26] <psha> now i'll look into rst
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[19:43:31] <archivist> psha, I did make an xml reader to read the mysql and php docs to get the factoid urls
[19:44:14] <psha> ah, i guessed from that mail that you've worked with docbook :)
[19:44:29] <psha> but netherless i've already found 'olinks' for them
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[21:14:51] <skunkworks> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/general_cnc_mill_lathe_control/119567-programmable_logic_ideas-3.html
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