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[00:47:25] <jepler> I did mean to commit it. I never did?
[00:48:37] <jepler> oh wow that just-added test is awesome
[00:50:27] <jepler> am I doing something wrong? it looks like from here tha the touch-off message change is in v2.5_branch.
[00:51:39] <jepler> $ git log --oneline -1 origin/v2.5_branch -- src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/axis.py
[00:51:42] <jepler> 88909a6 Reflect whether the touch-off is to workpiece or fixture
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[01:30:06] <cradek> yes I agree you did
[01:50:20] <cradek> I wasn't sure that's what he was asking about, though
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[04:28:58] <cradek> wow, that test IS cool
[04:29:56] <KimK> tell us about it?
[04:30:26] <cradek> it runs emc and runs a G0 command, then verifies that motion issues a move from 0 to 1 with the correct max velocity and acceleration
[04:31:14] <cradek> before this, we've never had a way to test actual motion output, which is a somewhat glaring omission
[04:32:12] <KimK> Sounds great! And this is Seb's recent post?
[04:32:14] <cradek> we could only test whether the move is sent to motion, for instance
[04:32:18] <cradek> yes
[04:33:09] <KimK> It does sound cool, thanks for the explanation!
[04:34:01] <KimK> I see he posted it to 2.5, any chance Seb wrote something up for the docs?
[04:34:52] <cradek> no - mostly, tests are for developers, not users
[04:36:03] <KimK> OK, thanks. I'm hurrying on docs too, I see mhaberler posted some things I'll no doubt collide with. I'll sort it out. Soon, I hope!
[04:36:20] <cradek> you guys rock
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[04:37:11] <KimK> Ha! Let's see if you still say that *after* you see what I did, lol!
[04:37:43] <cradek> your (correct) fixing of apostrophes always makes me smile
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[04:38:07] <cradek> docs folks are the unsung heroes.
[04:39:22] <KimK> Thanks, and I did use the "scalpel" quite a bit this time too. But I've also started using the "chain saw".
[04:41:15] <cradek> I think those are the hard ones, where whole masses should be better, or should be organized entirely differently
[04:46:11] <KimK> That's what happened this time. After I got into it, I pulled maybe 60 pages of HAL stuff out of the Integrator Manual and put it in the HAL manual. It seemed like it was either that or put the rest of the HAL manual in the Integrator Manual too, and just get rid of the HAL Manual. I didn't like that solution as well as the first. So "change is hard", "I can't find my stuff", "where'd everything go?" etc. I'll be in the doghouse for awhile.
[04:46:12] <KimK> That's OK.
[04:46:16] <KimK> Oops.
[04:47:12] <cradek> goodnight, and thanks again
[04:47:35] <KimK> Goodnight, thanks for the explanation. Later.
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[10:17:12] <jthornton> jepler: thanks I must have been sleeping and missed the commit
[10:17:42] <jthornton> I was just trying out the ngcgui patch and wanted to keep both
[10:18:39] <jthornton> or I saw it and forgot... getting old sucks
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[14:48:00] <CIA-9> EMC: 03mhaberler 07master * r9dc869a03a62 10/docs/src/gcode/overview.txt: docs: document L word, clarify scoping rules
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[16:12:57] <KimK> From Distrowatch: "The Sins of Ubuntu"
http://www.osnews.com/story/24803/The_Sins_of_Ubuntu
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[16:26:37] <JT-Shop> KimK: hi
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[16:31:54] <KimK> JT-Shop: Hi, JT, what shop projects today? (And what's on the lunch menu, lol?)
[16:32:25] <JT-Shop> peanut and jelly
[16:33:06] <JT-Shop> I read back and you said you moved 60 pages from the Integrator manual to the Hal manual did the information not pertain to integrating EMC into a machine?
[16:33:21] <KimK> OK. I'll come back when there's BBQ ribs, lol.
[16:36:17] <JT-Shop> building machinery today, kitchen door this evening
[16:36:59] <KimK> Well, as I see it, all of HAL is for integrating EMC2 into a machine. And as I looked at it, about half of the HAL manual was in one place and about half of it in another. Do you think it would be better to just have the Integrator Manual and get rid of the HAL manual? I can almost see doing it, but it would make for a pretty big manual.
[16:38:06] <KimK> I thought it would be better to just reduce the scattering/division of the HAL stuff.
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[16:41:57] <KimK> I'd like to push this mess pretty soon so people can comment, but I'm still finding and fixing build errors.
[16:47:04] <JT-Shop> The Hal manual did contain info more for running Hal from a terminal and not info that an integrator would need but there is no cut and dry line that I can see
[16:48:25] <JT-Shop> things like the Hal tutorial focused on using Hal by itself and seemed to be out of place in the Integrators manual, at least to me
[16:49:10] <JT-Shop> and the fact that Hal can be ran without EMC confused things even more
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[16:50:39] <JT-Shop> you should have seen the size of the manuals when I started... almost everything was duplicated in the user and integrator manuals and some in the hal manuals so you never knew where you found something
[16:51:48] <JT-Shop> often I've found when you move add things a make clean seems to be needed for some reason.
[16:52:26] <KimK> Good, I'm glad I'm not the only editor who thought that the red pencil was called for. But I've also added little bits here and there too, trying to smooth transitions and help beginners.
[16:54:34] <KimK> Yes, I was very grateful for your "make clean" advice, I start fresh on every session now, it helps a lot. It only takes about 6 minutes to rebuild docs here (my machine is recent, but unremarkable).
[16:57:40] <JT-Shop> and everything I say is just my opinion and others might think differently :)
[16:58:20] * JT-Shop goes to make a half of a peanut butter & jelly sandwich now
[16:58:55] <Jymmm> half?
[17:00:14] <JT-Shop> yea, you take one piece of bread, toast it, put peanut butter on one side, jelly on the other then fold in two
[17:00:38] <KimK> But that doesn't sound like much of a lunch for a big guy, does it?
[17:01:15] <JT-Shop> working on becoming MediumJohnT very slowly
[17:01:38] <KimK> Ah, OK. In that case, carry on.
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[17:10:58] <JT-Shop> I've also had to give up on the docs building and just download a fresh git when making large changes more than once as the time to do it over was less :/
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