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[10:50:52] <mhaberler> Q on regression tests: what is the purpose of filtering out the line numbers like so: rs274 -g flowsnake.ngc | awk '{$1=""; print}' ?
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[12:02:10] <jepler> mhaberler: to make lines shorter when inspecting them visually? I'm not entirely sure
[12:02:44] <mhaberler> so it's a pre-jepler feature ;-?
[12:03:15] <mhaberler> thanks! I'm trying to understand the regresssion writing more clearly..
[12:05:22] <mhaberler> jepler: I know you give a hand and I take the full arm.. nevertheless: can I ask you to glimpse over the shortish http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ToolInformationFlow - any comments on the questions? any obvious error?
[12:06:00] <jepler> if you've written that after studying the code, it's probably more accurate than anything in my mind at 7AM
[12:06:58] <mhaberler> yes; unfortunately the code reading didnt divine to me why things are the way they are
[12:07:09] <jepler> the open questions I can try to answer.
[12:07:21] <jepler> yes, just like everything else, the UI gets fresh tool table information at every refresh of the stat buffer
[12:08:03] <psha[work]> jepler: may you comment on lars's mail on -dev list about rt-preempt patches?
[12:08:22] <jepler> when you are parsing a gcode file for preview, you want to start with a snapshot of the tool table. that snapshot should be altered by the locally-interpreted gcode but should not be altered by any changes in the stat buffer
[12:09:08] <mhaberler> ok, that's what I figured - it sort of does the 'toolchanges at its own pace' I guess
[12:12:39] <jepler> psha[work]: rt-preempty work is obviously not going in 2.4. I doubt it would go in 2.5, but that's not my call.
[12:16:04] <mhaberler> jepler: thanks a lot
[12:16:53] <jepler> until the rt-preempt port is useful for running hardware, I'd recommend some git hosting service (I'd name one but I haven't reviewed any of their terms closely), keeping the work rebased on master as appropriate.
[12:16:56] <psha[work]> jepler: thx
[12:17:07] <psha[work]> yes
[12:17:26] <psha[work]> that's will easy maintainence a lot
[12:17:29] <jepler> is there a public git repository of this work at the moment?
[12:17:44] <psha[work]> no
[12:17:54] <psha[work]> i've searched older mails and found only some links to patches
[12:18:31] <mhaberler> github is sortof ok methinks
[12:18:45] <psha[work]> jepler: http://bu3sch.de/patches/emc-linux-rt/LATEST/
[12:18:56] <psha[work]> btw is there any problems with github/gitorious?
[12:19:03] <psha[work]> for public hosting it looks ok
[12:19:07] <psha[work]> s/it/they
[12:19:20] <jepler> none that I'm aware of
[12:20:00] <psha[work]> ok, so i'll try to guide him this way
[12:21:13] <jepler> time to go to work. talk to you guys later..
[12:21:36] <psha[work]> ah, good morning then :)
[12:21:53] <jepler> SWPadnos: I saw this and though of you -- isn't LabVIEW one of your favorite pieces of software to hate? http://www.sparkfun.com/products/10812
[12:23:30] <psha[work]> FYI: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.emc.devel/4454
[12:23:37] <psha[work]> link to older thread about rt-preempt
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[20:39:04] <andypugh> Is it the right thing, or the wrong thing, to do to try to find a "close sounding" error when returning failure from a function? I found a list on the interweb. So, for example if someone asks for SPI channel 9 and there are 8, -ECHRNG sounds right, but does that have a very specific meaning?
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[20:46:06] <jepler> ENODEV (no such device)?
[20:46:23] <andypugh> I looked at that one, too.
[20:48:37] <andypugh> Oh, and I have remembered why I stopped trying to do self-registering comp functions last time. A comp function auto-indexes itself through all instances, but I think I might have to do that by hand?
[20:50:58] <jepler> yes, I suppose you will need some way to do something for all the instances
[20:51:11] <jepler> in my mind it would be by registering one callback for each instance
[20:52:01] <andypugh> So, it needs to pass a function pointer, and an instance pointer.
[20:52:20] <jepler> yes, the registration function would take a function pointer and a data pointer
[20:52:37] <jepler> the call would pass the data pointer (and any other args you have determined are necessary)
[20:53:29] <andypugh> Hmm, so the comp will reference variables that are not declared, except in the comp macro-expansions.
[20:54:49] <jepler> if your function starts with this: struct state *inst = (struct state*)data;
[20:54:58] <jepler> then you can use all the convenience macros for pins and parameter
[20:54:58] <jepler> s
[20:55:41] <jepler> (if 'data' is the name of the void* callback pointer)
[20:57:05] <andypugh> I am concerned that the simple, clear, comp prototype is going to end up anything but.
[20:57:20] <jepler> then don't do it my way
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[20:59:00] <andypugh> It just seems to be stretching comp a bit too far. I can see the advantages of doing it your way if the sub-driver isn't in "comp". But the idea was to create an extensible interface that non-developers could use.
[21:02:22] <andypugh> is it possible to convert a commit to a branch? (Ie, can I branch from the previous commit, not the current one?)
[21:03:28] <jepler> sure
[21:03:32] <jepler> just name the commit you want when creating the branch
[21:03:41] <jepler> git branch newbranchname HEAD^
[21:05:08] <andypugh> Let me see if that does what I mean.
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[21:09:39] <andypugh> Not really, but at least I have a branch-point and can rewind by hand.
[21:19:10] <andypugh> I am heading down a confusing chain of thought here: There is no reason that the self-registering function code should be in the bspi driver, it might as well be in the hostmot2 driver, but then why should only hm2 components be able to auto-register themselves, so perhaps it belongs in rtapi..
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[23:25:48] <andypugh> jepler: Actually, this isn't too bad. If every instance has a pointer to its read and write functions then all the main driver has to do is iterate through the instances, and call each one's registered handler function..
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