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[15:06:10] <CIA-95> EMC: 03mhaberler 07master * r040dd2bf987c 10/src/emc/pythonplugin/python_plugin.cc: pythonplugin: fix segfault when call returns None
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[16:10:53] <jepler> argh
http://softsolder.com/2011/11/13/emc2-logitech-gamepad-trigger-button-name-change/
[16:12:05] <JT-Shop> came out with 2.7
[16:14:33] <JT-Shop> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=emc2.git;a=history;f=lib/python/linux_event.py;h=f24349adbe893b8dde26c9ab242e85ac2bec779f;hb=HEAD
[16:14:59] <JT-Shop> for some reason a couple of keys share the same name
[16:15:35] <JT-Shop> 'BTN_JOYSTICK': 0x120,
[16:15:36] <JT-Shop> 'BTN_TRIGGER': 0x120,
[16:15:41] <jepler> yes
[16:16:04] <JT-Shop> I assumed it was correct as it has been there from the git go
[16:16:19] <jepler> but how does that last commit (the only one in 2.4.7 and not in 2.4.6) affect BTN_JOYSTICK vs BTN_TRIGGER, when both were added before that commit (I know the answer, or think I do, fwiw)
[16:16:54] <JT-Shop> that would be interesting
[16:19:33] <jepler> the order of items within a python dictionary ({...} denotes a dictionary) is dependent on what the keys are and in what order they're added. (it can also vary from 32-bit to 64-bit systems and from version to version of python)
[16:19:54] <jepler> the dictionary says what name has what value, but somewhere later on we make another dictionary that says what value goes with what name
[16:20:16] <jepler> that second piece of code depends on the order of the items within the dictionary, which can change whenever you poke the dictionary with a stick
[16:20:19] <jepler> ... oops
[16:20:45] <JT-Shop> oops
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[16:27:22] <JT-Shop> the second part is the def find(pattern): part?
[16:29:07] <jepler> def invert(d):
[16:29:07] <jepler> return dict((v,k) for k,v in d.iteritems())
[16:29:11] <jepler> BTN_invert = invert(BTN)
[16:31:59] <JT-Shop> ok, interesting
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[16:40:41] <seb_kuzminsky> bummer
[16:42:03] <jepler> no good deed..
[16:44:02] <seb_kuzminsky> that list in linux_event.py came right out of linux/input.h, the duplicate names are in the original
[16:44:21] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if one of the names is "more canonical" and we should maybe drop the other(s)?
[16:44:58] <seb_kuzminsky> and then watch in horrified fascination as Ed mocks us in another blog post when 2.4.8 comes out :-/
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[16:47:20] <seb_kuzminsky> This was not all new from Przemek's patch btw
[16:47:35] <seb_kuzminsky> BTN_MISC == BTN_0, since 2007
[16:47:45] <seb_kuzminsky> BTN_MOUSE == BTN_LEFT
[16:47:46] <seb_kuzminsky> etc
[16:47:47] <jepler> the question is probably not "which is more canonical", but "what did 2.4.6 actually happen to do on 32-bit lucid"
[16:48:02] <seb_kuzminsky> heh
[16:48:29] <seb_kuzminsky> i wonder if it did the same on lucid-32 as on hardy-32
[16:50:21] <JT-Shop> I know on my plasma it had been input.0.btn-trigger since 2.3 or so
[16:51:22] <jepler> you haven't upgraded to 2.4.7 then?
[16:51:32] <JT-Shop> yes, I have
[16:52:08] <seb_kuzminsky> is your plasma machine hardy?
[16:52:36] <JT-Shop> yes, I had to look which one is hardy
[16:52:51] <seb_kuzminsky> sucks to be us then - there's no right answer
[16:53:25] <JT-Shop> soon to be 10.04 on D525 with 5i25/7i76
[16:57:54] <JT-Shop> do you expect a different behavior on 10.04?
[16:59:22] <seb_kuzminsky> maybe! it was for ed, but maybe it'll magically be the same for you! we are relying on undefined behavior, so all bets are off
[17:00:33] <seb_kuzminsky> i think we should remove duplicates from the list, to remove the ambiguity
[17:00:57] <jepler> I have a shiny nickel here for the person who can come up with a way to automatically get the reverse and forward tables from one set of code, and it matches lucid/i386/2.4.6 behavior
[17:02:28] <jepler> my mind's still too fuzzy to figure out what the impact of that would be
[17:02:33] <CIA-95> EMC: 03mhaberler 07master * rc728b2b2e10f 10/src/emc/pythonplugin/python_plugin.cc: pythonplugin: make sure exceptions are propagated
[17:02:34] <CIA-95> EMC: 03mhaberler 07master * r76a3cb4c00ff 10/src/emc/rs274ngc/ (interp_internal.hh interp_o_word.cc interp_python.cc): interp/python: returning a string from a Python handler is like (abort,msg)
[17:02:36] <CIA-95> EMC: 03mhaberler 07master * rec35d82da756 10/docs/src/remap/structure.txt: interp/python: document new error return method
[17:03:16] <seb_kuzminsky> heh, i was hoping that was michael come to save us! but it looks like he's fixing something else
[17:03:26] <JT-Shop> Ed got the same results as me when updating to 2.4.7 and his is running 10.04 and I'm running 8.04
[17:03:39] <JT-Shop> just reading the blog again
[17:05:26] <mhaberler> cleanup day
[17:06:25] <jepler> bbl
[17:06:31] <seb_kuzminsky> JT-Shop: ed upgraded from hardy/2.4.6 to lucid/2.4.7, and his button changed frmo btn-trigger to btn-joystick
[17:07:21] <seb_kuzminsky> you upgraded from hardy/2.4.6 to hardy/2.4.7, and you said your button is still called btn-trigger
[17:07:27] <seb_kuzminsky> is that right?
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[18:24:08] <micges> cradek: hi
[18:24:52] <micges> is it ok for you to add skeleton of new language in 2.5.0 ? or is it ok to do so in 2.5.x ?
[18:27:33] <JT-Shop> micges: what was that python boost package needed to build 2.5?
[18:28:09] <micges> sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends libboost-python-dev
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[18:28:37] <JT-Shop> I'm at a winblows computer, thanks
[18:29:37] <JT-Shop> let me know what you find out about the docs if I miss it
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[18:34:23] <mhaberler> licensing: ok to use MIT-licensed software in EMC2?
http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
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[18:44:41] <Jymmm> mhaberler: First paragraph...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License
[18:45:11] <Jymmm> mhaberler: MIT license *IS* GPL compatible.
[18:45:32] <mhaberler> thanks!
[18:45:37] <Jymmm> np
[18:55:01] <tissf> JT-Shop: when adding an image, must edit a file before using it?
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[18:58:55] <tissf> ../docs/src/Submakefile:764: *** Required image file ../docs/src/config/images/switch-no-parallel.eps does not exist. Stop.
[19:00:34] <tissf> oops ! forget my question !
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[19:07:27] <mhaberler> Jymmm: the question was about Python twisted.. it took a full 8 lines of Python to add an asynchronous web server to axis and it still works.. no, I wont push that www server ;-) but that stuff helps immensly with redis
[19:08:21] <Jymmm> mhaberler: async via JS ?
[19:09:20] <Jymmm> oh, nm
[19:09:32] <mhaberler> no, just a trivial proof-of-concept, not a real server: the example from Event-Driven Web Applications on
http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/
[19:10:17] <Jymmm> mhaberler: I would never use http as a control on a machine personally
[19:10:40] <mhaberler> me either. I wanted to find out how axis works with twisted, thats all
[19:10:50] <Jymmm> as a POC, ok.
[19:10:54] <Jymmm> cool
[19:12:42] <mhaberler> the guis become redis subscribers, and list on the, say, tool channel; once some component publishes something on the tool channel all subscribers are notified - auto update without polling; thats what the async network support is needed for
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[19:15:45] <Jymmm> mhaberler: Overall, I just feel that SGML is pure evil =)
[19:18:56] <mhaberler> apt-get remove firefox
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[19:19:18] <Jymmm> apt-get install lynx
[19:19:30] <Jymmm> still same evilness though
[19:19:35] <mhaberler> let me guess you terminal: ASR-33?
[19:19:48] <Jymmm> heh
[19:20:45] <mhaberler> editor: teco ; internet hookup:
http://blog.ncf.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/apple_apple2_acoustic-coupler_1.jpg
[19:23:17] <Jymmm> mhaberler: Did you know they still use acoustic modems today
[19:23:51] <mhaberler> military?
[19:24:43] <Jymmm> mhaberler: Ocean bottom sensors. Sounds travels 5x faster in water. So they have ships on the surface communicate with ocean bottom sensors using acoustic modems.
[19:26:17] <Jymmm> to collect the data
[19:26:30] <mhaberler> bugger them poor whalez
[19:27:09] <Jymmm> heh
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[20:53:12] <tissf> git error: pack-objects died with strange error What is it?
[20:53:28] <tissf> can't push
[20:55:35] <tissf> Current branch v2.5_branch is up to date.
[20:56:13] <tissf> Counting objects: 52, done. error: unable to find 8acc651c9b47ce40a01360024e510579a2130858 Delta compression using up to 2 threads. Compressing objects: 100% (29/29), done. fatal: object 8acc651c9b47ce40a01360024e510579a2130858 is corrupted error: pack-objects died with strange error
[20:57:22] <tissf> Can someone help me?
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[21:15:47] <andypugh> Wierd. Might be worth googling the error message. That works for me somethimes
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[22:30:38] <CIA-95> EMC: 03mhaberler 07master * r0bf76007cb3a 10/configs/sim/remap/ (3 files in 3 dirs): remap: disable RETAIN_G43 experimental feature in demos
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