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[00:00:47] <jlmjvm> its an absolute necessity ,everything will turn on when the computer turns on if you dont have 1
[00:01:33] <JymmmEMC> Yeah, I understand, I'm also incorporating manual overrides too
[00:02:21] <JymmmEMC> ah shit... one more aspect to toss on the drawing board I forgot about =)
[00:02:42] <jlmjvm> i just got thru seeing it first hand,its worth every penny
[00:04:21] <JymmmEMC> ok, good to know. One of my pet peeves is maintaing the isolation yet not incorporating the necessary power supplies, cheating by using USB power from pc. I want one cable from PC to controller box, not a a bunch of them
[00:05:36] <jlmjvm> the campbell board only has 1 cable,uses 110 or 220 and provides all the isolated power for everything
[00:05:49] <JymmmEMC> Yeah, I noticed that =)
[00:05:54] <jlmjvm> even prox switches
[00:06:31] <jlmjvm> i just got thru putting 1 in,gonna order one for me now
[00:06:39] <JymmmEMC> cool
[00:07:13] <fenn> * fenn hands jymmm a solar panel
[00:07:21] <fenn> opto-isolated power supply :D
[00:07:32] <JymmmEMC> I'll have to read more on it. I needed about 13A peak on relay contact, but it looks like nobody actually offers that, will still have to use external SSR's, oh well.
[00:07:38] <JymmmEMC> fenn++
[00:07:57] <JymmmEMC> I limit use of solar panels to comms gear though =)
[00:10:24] <JymmmEMC> still looking for a nice controller for it though...
[00:10:30] <ds2> Hmmmm solar powered bridge ports ;)
[00:38:15] <Ziegler> Off topic:
http://www.biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=4262
[00:38:21] <Ziegler> (but darn cool)
[00:38:22] <JymmmEMC> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/offbeat/2007/11/28/vo.boy.cambodia.snake.ap
[00:39:21] <JymmmEMC> pretty cool indeed
[00:39:42] <Ziegler> next article we shall see a heavier snake
[00:40:16] <JymmmEMC> 20' aint big enough? it sleeps with the boy too
[00:42:48] <Ziegler> (heavier by the weight of one small boy)
[01:13:29] <dmess> wow... awesome snake and STUPID parents... and WICKED WINGSUITE stuff
[01:16:37] <dmess> where do I sign up...
[01:17:08] <dmess> c&p with the rocks and all
[01:20:43] <skunkworks> woo hoo - we have frost walls :)
[01:25:01] <skunkworks> Crap - it is cold here
[01:25:38] <dmess> where??
[01:25:50] <skunkworks> heh - trempealeau WI
[01:26:08] <skunkworks> ok - its only 28f - but it is windy as hell
[01:26:20] <dmess> i see... cold here too... the wind is witchen
[01:26:50] <dmess> gysts to 70-80 kph
[01:27:29] <dmess> good hunting weather... if you like trippin' over the moose
[01:30:18] <skunkworks> heh - deer hunting just ended here
[01:34:49] <dmess> you guys have LOTSA deer though right??? how many are you allowed??
[01:35:20] <skunkworks> hmm - not a hunter - but atleast 2 I think
[01:35:47] <skunkworks> They are talking maybe next year will be earn a buck. (have to shoot a doe before you can shoot a buck)
[01:38:19] <dmess> really.... WOW...
[01:39:08] <dmess> we have buck hunts only.. or the loterry for does...
[01:56:52] <dmess> as dad always said... Throw another log on the fire..... make some warm...
[01:58:12] <dmess> or lay on the thermostat. there's more diesel fuel where that came from...:-D
[01:58:56] <dmess> we also had an oil burnin' forced air system...
[02:16:06] <dmess> skunkworks: send me an email
[email protected] i have a fish story to show you
[02:26:14] <tomp3> i got the walmart gOS pc running the newest live cd, and the latency reporter is running, how do i aggravate it?
[02:28:53] <dmess> pound on some applications
[02:29:12] <tomp3> wasnt there a particular opengl app?
[02:29:53] <dmess> probably... but i dont know it...
[02:29:55] <tomp3> ~glgears?
[02:30:28] <dmess> how new is your cd??? ver??
[02:31:09] <tomp3> 2.2.1emc just dloaded it with this sys and burned with this sys to test that part
[02:31:33] <dmess> good option
[02:31:43] <tomp3> initial max is 13276 ( hit with file browser )
[02:32:01] <tomp3> i have no scale to measure it against
[02:32:21] <dmess> i cant help...
[02:33:50] <tomp3> glxgears is less, at 11488 this is with stock box, so onboard vid
[02:35:37] <dmess> not soo bad
[02:35:51] <tomp3> hmm, blowed up :( screen blanked, went back to login
[02:36:02] <tomp3> back already so it's not a dog
[02:38:05] <tomp3> last few relevant lines in 'messages'...
[02:38:10] <tomp3> Nov 29 02:32:52 ubuntu kernel: [ 1701.668279] RTAI[sched_lxrt]: hard timer type/ freq = 8254-PIT/1193180(Hz); default timing mode is periodic; linear ordering of timed lists.
[02:38:10] <tomp3> Nov 29 02:32:52 ubuntu kernel: [ 1701.668289] RTAI[sched_lxrt]: Linux timer freq = 1000 (Hz), CPU freq = 1500731000 hz.
[02:38:10] <tomp3> Nov 29 02:32:52 ubuntu kernel: [ 1701.668296] RTAI[sched_lxrt]: timer setup = 20 10 ns, resched latency = 2689 ns.
[02:38:10] <tomp3> Nov 29 02:34:16 ubuntu gconfd (ubuntu-6768): Received signal 15, shutting down c leanly
[02:45:55] <tomp3> crapola now after the crash...
[02:46:04] <tomp3> RTH| lat min| ovl min| lat avg| lat max| ovl max| overruns
[02:46:04] <tomp3> RTD| -1198| -1679| 285| 8789| 10672| 51217
[02:46:36] <tomp3> how to find the culpret?
[02:48:20] <tomp3> same with/without glxgears, something changed and stuck
[02:48:29] <tomp3> bbl
[02:54:13] <tomp> i can monitor from this box....
[02:54:35] <tomp> is it reasonable to run latency tests on a live-cd session?
[03:01:56] <toastydeath> i wouldn't,
[03:02:15] <toastydeath> my experience with live-cd anything is that it isn't representative at all of what an installed system will do
[03:03:43] <tomp3> try try again
[03:06:49] <tomp> blowed up again after glxgears, will try a matrox pci another day
[03:22:58] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/debian/changelog: from TRUNK: implement M66 E- (read analog value from gcode)
[03:23:00] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/motion/ (control.c emcmotcfg.h mot_priv.h motion.c motion.h): from TRUNK: implement M66 E- (read analog value from gcode)
[03:23:00] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/nml_intf/ (emc_nml.hh emcglb.h): from TRUNK: implement M66 E- (read analog value from gcode)
[03:23:02] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/task/ (emccanon.cc taskintf.cc): from TRUNK: implement M66 E- (read analog value from gcode)
[03:23:03] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/interp_convert.cc: from TRUNK: implement M66 E- (read analog value from gcode)
[04:50:02] <toastydeath> drunk
[04:57:38] <eric_U> how would we tell?
[04:57:54] <toastydeath> i'm not sure.
[05:28:32] <fenn> glad to hear that the wal-mart box worked, but i doubt it will stay the same hardware even if it comes in the same box
[05:28:52] <fenn> oh he left.
[05:34:44] <fenn> does anyone know if such a thing exists as an "adjustable parallel" where you have two angled plates that slide against each other to provide a variable height block?
[05:35:04] <fenn> all the ones i see have teeth in them, so you can't adjust it perfectly
[05:35:27] <toastydeath> yeah
[05:35:36] <toastydeath> they are, ironically, called "adjustable parallels"
[05:35:40] <toastydeath> i have a set of them.
[05:36:17] <fenn> and you can, say, put a workpiece on them to be bored out on a lathe?
[05:36:44] <toastydeath> uh, they're tiny things
[05:36:52] <toastydeath> also i don't really know what you're asking
[05:37:19] <fenn> the usual way to do this is with blocks and shims, but it seems fiddly, that's all
[05:37:26] <toastydeath> http://contractorstools.com/starrett_rules_154.html
[05:39:38] <fenn> i'm thinking something much fatter and block-like
[05:39:53] <fenn> perhaps with bolt-holes in it like a 123 block
[05:40:13] <toastydeath> if those exist, they're not a common item at all
[05:41:14] <fenn> yeah if you have to do this stuff you just get a jig borer...
[05:41:52] <fenn> planer gauge looks sorta right: www.wisc-online.com/ objects/MTL3902/MLT3902.htm
[05:41:58] <fenn> ah google!
[05:42:10] <fenn> www.wisc-online.com/ objects/MTL3902/MLT3902.htm
[05:42:14] <fenn> dammit
[05:42:27] <fenn> http://www.wisc-online.com/objects/MTL3902/MLT3902.htm
[05:44:51] <toastydeath> i have a planer gauge too
[05:45:01] <toastydeath> definately not for workholding
[05:45:07] <toastydeath> it's essentially a transfer only device
[05:45:18] <toastydeath> it doesn't set hard at all
[05:52:22] <fenn> how can this possibly work? :\
http://www.sherline.com/images/2000pic.jpg
[06:29:31] <wholepair> hello! does anyone want to help me? I am thinking about installing emc2 on a laptop I just installed gutsy on...
[06:30:47] <wholepair> when it says 'experimental' in the wiki what does that mean exactly?
[06:39:55] <fenn> wholepair: it means there hasn't been any significant effort to make sure that it actually works
[06:41:03] <fenn> apparently sometimes it will hang, and there was a problem with opengl showing through windows in places it wasnt supposed to
[06:48:37] <wholepair> fenn: well, I think I will just try it out for fun - if it doesn't work I will switch to ubuntu 6.06 - I got a new laptop I want to switch my mill over too - Dell INSPIRON P4 1.8
[13:48:51] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/debian/control.in: add missing dependency on python2.4-glade2
[13:49:30] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/debian/ (changelog control.in): add missing dependency on python2.4-glade2
[14:31:32] <EvertL> leave
[14:31:45] <EvertL> me
[14:33:17] <EvertL> nick
[14:37:14] <LasloN> quit
[15:42:52] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/image-to-gcode.py: fix problem where metric image-to-gcode would go to the safety height before setting metric units
[15:42:54] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07TRUNK * 10emc2/lib/python/rs274/author.py: fix problem where metric image-to-gcode would go to the safety height before setting metric units
[15:44:08] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/debian/changelog: fix problem where metric image-to-gcode would go to the safety height before setting metric units
[15:44:08] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/lib/python/rs274/author.py: fix problem where metric image-to-gcode would go to the safety height before setting metric units
[15:44:09] <CIA-23> 03jepler 07v2_2_branch * 10emc2/src/emc/usr_intf/axis/scripts/image-to-gcode.py: fix problem where metric image-to-gcode would go to the safety height before setting metric units
[19:49:09] <skunkworks> The_Ball: how goes it?
[19:53:00] <skunkworks> well - I get to buy $1k worth of closed cell foam tonight
[19:54:29] <jlmjvm> is pastebin working for yall
[20:05:33] <jepler> jlmjvm: pastebin.ca is slow to load or down. pastebin.com seems to load at the moment.
[20:06:49] <jlmjvm> k
[20:13:42] <fenn> skunkworks: building an airplane?
[20:19:01] <skunkworks> heh - no. Isulating footings and floor of a garage
[20:19:19] <skunkworks> insulating
[20:19:20] <skunkworks> whatever
[20:26:15] <jlmjvm> http://pastebin.com/d22af355e
[20:28:23] <jlmjvm> jepler:is there any way to link the button to the print command
[20:29:26] <jlmjvm> i can do a F5 in idle and it prints,just want the button to do the print
[20:31:02] <jepler> jlmjvm: yes. you make a function with def that does the action or sequence of actions you want, and then make that function be the command= of the button.
[20:31:05] <jepler> http://pastebin.com/m2c2f224f
[21:01:00] <jlmjvm_> jepler:that works ,check it out
[21:01:44] <jlmjvm_> http://pastebin.com/d4edb6ef5
[21:02:33] <jepler> jlmjvm_: in this case you'd want to s.poll() so that you have the latest idea of position
[21:05:59] <jlmjvm_> doesnt it have s.poll() in there?
[21:07:32] <jepler> inside the 'def', you should s.poll()
[21:07:41] <jlmjvm_> k
[21:08:35] <jepler> all the information in s is from whenever .poll() was last called
[21:28:23] <jlmjvm_> having no luck with s.poll
[21:31:02] <jlmjvm_> what i pasted last works,but it has to be restarted if you want to use button again,like its good for one shot
[21:33:08] <jlmjvm_> also had to remove this line root.mainloop()
[21:34:50] <jepler> you're doing something wrong, but since you haven't shown me the code, or the error (if you're getting one) or said specifically what behavior you're getting, I would be engaging in pure speculation if I tried to guess.
[21:35:22] <jlmjvm_> will send error
[21:36:03] <CIA-23> 03cradek 07w_tool_length * 10emc2/src/emc/rs274ngc/ (8 files): canned cycles in uv, vw, wu planes
[21:36:03] <CIA-23> 03cradek 07w_tool_length * 10emc2/src/emc/nml_intf/canon.hh: canned cycles in uv, vw, wu planes
[21:40:07] <jlmjvm_> says python shell is already executing a command;please wait untill its finished
[21:41:34] <jlmjvm_> thats after you hit the button once,then move,and hit again. this has the root.mainloop() in it
[21:42:43] <CIA-23> 03cradek 07w_tool_length * 10emc2/configs/5axis/ (5axis_sim.hal 5axis.ini): need u,v loopbacks - kins currently ignores them
[21:43:00] <jlmjvm_> http://pastebin.com/d4fd4c8ec
[21:43:20] <jlmjvm_> then after you hit ok twice it gives this
[21:44:32] <jepler> this error is from idle, a program I don't use. perhaps you've encountered an error in it. AttributeError: ModifiedInterpreter instance has no attribute 'interp'
[21:44:48] <jepler> I always test my python programs from the terminal: python whatever.py
[21:44:49] <jlmjvm_> ahh,ok
[21:44:58] <jlmjvm_> what do you use?
[21:45:07] <jepler> I always test my python programs from the terminal: python whatever.py
[21:45:15] <jlmjvm_> just saw that
[21:45:31] <jlmjvm_> will give that a shot
[21:56:50] <jlmjvm_> it seems to hang in terminal,doesnt give you the command prompt back
[21:57:16] <jepler> that is exactly what I would expect, if the program ends with .mainloop() (as it should)
[21:57:44] <jepler> when you close the window the program creates, you should then get your terminal prompt back.
[21:58:21] <jlmjvm_> yes,thats what it does
[21:59:17] <jlmjvm_> so is that working correctly then?
[22:04:42] <jepler> yes, that is how a standard unix program behaves: until it exits, the shell prompt is not shown in the terminal
[22:05:28] <ds2> anyone ever have to make a semiround peice, kind of like a split log?
[22:07:40] <jepler> bbl
[22:09:04] <jlmjvm_> thanks
[22:14:14] <fenn> ds2: a d-bit?
[22:14:28] <ds2> no bigger
[22:14:33] <ds2> but it would look like a D bit
[22:14:45] <fenn> easy with a mill..
[22:14:47] <ds2> trying to make a mold to form some plastic sheets
[22:15:02] <ds2> mill?
[22:15:09] <fenn> milling machine..
[22:15:13] <ds2> doh.. need to help someone, bb
[22:15:23] <fenn> my cat smells like mold and its rubbing on me :(
[22:16:50] <fenn> or you could bolt two blocks together and turn them together on a lathe
[22:17:38] <cradek> I made a piece like that recently - I just milled a flat. Is that all you're talking about?
[22:23:45] <JymmmEMC> pvc pipe cut in half
[23:41:02] <jlmjvm_> jepler:i got the s.poll working
[23:41:10] <jlmjvm_> yah
