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[01:06:36] <alex4nder> sick
[01:06:41] <alex4nder> so the new mill control machine works
[01:06:56] <alex4nder> I couldn't hit 100 IPM without losing steps on X and Y.. but I got to 75 IPM with nice accel.
[01:07:55] <ReadError> what did you do different? new mobo?
[01:08:12] <alex4nder> yah, whole new machine
[01:08:33] <alex4nder> I devoted one core to RTAI
[01:09:18] <ReadError> i might need to add some heatsinks to the g540
[01:09:22] <ReadError> it gets pretty warm
[01:09:41] <ReadError> ill have air going over it in my control box though
[01:09:54] <jdhNC> ;ast cpmpr
[01:09:57] <jdhNC> erk
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[01:10:32] <alex4nder> ReadError: let me measure mine..
[01:11:05] * robin_sz adds "build some DC servo amps" to his to do list
[01:12:36] <ReadError> i got 2x 90CFM fans
[01:12:47] <ReadError> i figure ill have a cross flow right over the g540 through the box
[01:12:54] <alex4nder> ReadError: mine is sitting at 114 degrees right now.
[01:13:01] <alex4nder> and my steppers are at 120
[01:13:02] <alex4nder> F
[01:13:10] <ReadError> i have an IR gun, i should measure
[01:13:37] <ReadError> i might need to remove one of those wires..
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[01:17:35] <alex4nder> ReadError: with your larger steppers, what velocity/accel settings have you gotten up to on Z?
[01:18:01] <ReadError> i got it capped in the config, let me check
[01:18:42] <ReadError> MAX_VELOCITY = 0.95
[01:18:42] <ReadError> MAX_ACCELERATION = 30.0
[01:18:42] <ReadError> STEPGEN_MAXACCEL = 37.5
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[01:21:36] <alex4nder> on Z that's great.
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[01:45:54] <ReadError> yea i have no idea what ranges to use really
[01:46:23] <ReadError> wish toolpath generation was easier ;/
[01:46:29] <alex4nder> yes
[01:46:42] <ReadError> pycam wont do peck drilling
[01:46:46] <ReadError> which is the real deal breaker
[01:46:56] <alex4nder> yah, but that is so easy to add afterwards
[01:46:56] <ReadError> i got the outside and middle done nice, but the holes
[01:47:06] <ReadError> i can alway create another job to just drill
[01:47:15] <alex4nder> I'd think that would be the least of your worries.
[01:47:20] <ReadError> true
[01:47:26] <alex4nder> the material removal strategy is what bugs me
[01:47:31] <ReadError> i just want a viable method i can repeat for other stuff
[01:47:41] <alex4nder> all of the free/cheap CAM strategies make your mill sound like it's foodprocessing rocks.
[01:48:02] <ReadError> i wish they had a co-op box
[01:48:07] <ReadError> where you donated some money
[01:48:11] <ReadError> RDP in, do your jobs
[01:48:25] <ReadError> i can get a box from work
[01:48:29] <ReadError> but the software is whats kille4r
[01:48:32] <ReadError> killer*
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[01:48:47] <ReadError> we have 10gigE
[01:49:42] <alex4nder> it seems like the big 'problem' with CAM is that the easy stuff is easy, and the moment you get away from butt-simple, it gets really hard to do well.
[01:50:27] <ReadError> or the software that does it nice, you get it how you want then they say ohai, pay us money for the full version
[01:50:33] <ReadError> cut2d did what i needed
[01:50:41] <ReadError> but i cant find a copy that lets me actually save
[01:50:53] <alex4nder> I mean in general as far as implementing functionality.
[01:51:19] <alex4nder> because I don't want to use anyone else's software unless it's really good, and I haven't seen any that is good that costs less than my car.
[01:51:41] <alex4nder> maybe sprutcam? but then you're locked into running windows
[01:53:00] <ReadError> alex4nder, I run vmware esxi
[01:53:08] <ReadError> im never locked in ;)
[01:53:12] <alex4nder> we had this conversation
[01:53:15] <alex4nder> fuck virtual machines
[01:53:18] <ReadError> 2600K w/ 16GB ram
[01:53:25] <ReadError> runs solid works like a CHAMP too
[01:53:33] <ReadError> over gigabit, zero latency
[01:53:54] <alex4nder> you're locked into windows, you just get to look at it through a window
[01:55:09] <alex4nder> ssi_: where's your CAM software, son?
[01:55:53] <ReadError> ssi_is coding some too?
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[02:11:22] <alex4nder> ReadError: we talked a bit about it, I showed him some of the stuff I did
[02:13:17] <alex4nder> ReadError: i just grabbed video of the filter, basin, and some of the PS3 controller.
[02:13:41] * alex4nder processes them for YouTube.
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[02:30:06] <alex4nder> ReadError: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gODZJ_gBBA
[02:31:48] <ReadError> does the coolant have something in that prevents the machine from rusting?
[02:31:53] <ReadError> mostly oil?
[02:32:01] <alex4nder> yup
[02:32:07] <alex4nder> or rust inhibitors
[02:37:07] <alex4nder> ReadError: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnjozIOnLvI
[02:38:47] <ReadError> how much did the basin coast?
[02:38:59] <ReadError> for the materials
[02:39:33] <alex4nder> the concrete was cheap.. like $15?
[02:39:39] <ReadError> oh nice
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[02:53:10] <ReadError> how much for the pump+filter+locline?
[02:53:47] <ReadError> on the fly code generation would be nice
[02:54:11] <ReadError> where if i just want to cut a cicle
[02:54:12] <ReadError> it does
[02:54:41] <ReadError> specify radius, depth of cut, tool offset
[02:57:26] <alex4nder> ReadError: that's going to be another $150-$200 once everything is the way I want it.
[02:59:47] <alex4nder> you could use a shithouse fountain pump, but they're magnetic drive usually.
[03:00:30] <Jymmm> JT-Shop-2: jthornton You alive?
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[03:39:04] <Tecan> neat vid alex4nder :)
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[04:58:39] <alex4nder> yoh
[04:58:46] <alex4nder> Tecan: cool thanks
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[06:10:11] <toastydeath> i just watched a video on how to set up a jointer
[06:10:19] <toastydeath> it's painful to watch woodworking people set up tools
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[06:13:32] <mrsun> url?
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[06:14:37] <toastydeath> lemme find it again
[06:14:58] <toastydeath> this is one of the better videos but it's what i was watching
[06:14:58] <toastydeath> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO746cuRqV4
[06:15:13] <toastydeath> very informative on what adjustments jointers have, though
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[06:19:07] <mk0> i compiled branch master. should i see 2.6.0 or 2.5.0 upon runnig?
[06:33:58] <cylly2> mornin'
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[07:06:51] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[07:18:27] <alex4nder> ok
[07:19:09] <alex4nder> time to do some HAL hacking
[07:19:16] <alex4nder> and then watch some game of thrones
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[07:47:04] <archivist> jthornton, "The fixed jaw of the vise never moves" I almost never manage a vice position (spelling!) to last more than one job
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[07:50:14] <archivist> jthornton, version date seems to predate its writing somewhat version 1.0, 2003-12
[07:50:38] <archivist> indicating the vice could include squareness too
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[09:15:52] <mk0> about free of cost xchat for windows. http://code.google.com/p/xchat-wdk/
[09:18:21] <mk0> http://www.xchat-wdk.org/
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[11:13:44] <jthornton> archivist, if you move your vise that much you must have a rather quick and accurate way to indicate the vise in... you could write a paragraph or two if you like
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[11:28:05] <jdhNC> are the slots in the bottoms of vices good enough to use for Y alignment?
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[11:45:01] <awallin> hm, if you have rotated xy coords you could skip aligning the vise? and just rotate in the control..
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[11:53:31] <jthornton> good enough depends on your requirements
[12:00:13] <jthornton> archivist, yea I just copied a template and started hammering away at it and didn't even think of the date part at the top
[12:13:34] <fliebel> What could cause a cnc mill to lock up? It uses worm gears, which sometimes block for no apparent reason.
[12:14:11] <jdhNC> is it turned on.
[12:14:13] <fliebel> it just goes step, step, step, step, thud, thud, thud...
[12:15:27] <fliebel> yes, it's on.
[12:16:18] <jdhNC> jthornton: When you are done, can you do one on material/tool setup for lathes also?
[12:16:53] <jthornton> I won't be done until I cover lathes :-)
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[12:40:15] <Tectu> can EMC drive A4988 drivers?
[12:43:50] <alex_joni> pololu?
[12:44:20] <Tectu> alex4nder, #include <errno.h>
[12:44:20] <Tectu> #include <sys/stat.h>
[12:44:21] <Tectu> #include <sys/times.h>
[12:44:21] <Tectu> #include <sys/unistd.h>
[12:44:22] <Tectu> #include "stm32f10x_usart.h"
[12:44:52] <Tectu> oh my god
[12:45:00] <Tectu> sorry, that was copy&paste fail
[12:45:12] <TekniQue> #include <fail.h>
[12:45:18] <Tectu> alex_joni, this things: http://reprapsource.com/en/show/6532
[12:45:22] <Tectu> TekniQue, indeeed
[12:45:47] <alex_joni> Tectu: looks step/dir, so I see no reason why not
[12:45:50] <jdhNC> A4988 looks like plain old step/dir. Nifty looking chip though. All-in-one.
[12:46:20] <Tectu> well, i use L297 atm, and they are in the dropdown menu, and i don't want to write stuff on my own
[12:46:26] <Tectu> so i ask if there is also support for them or not
[12:46:57] <jdhNC> nothing to write, that just sets timing values
[12:48:47] <Tectu> ok
[12:48:48] <jdhNC> 1uS min pulse width, 200nS step/dir change.
[12:48:59] <Tectu> where do you get that from?
[12:49:47] <jdhNC> http://www.allegromicro.com/Products/Motor-Driver-And-Interface-ICs/Bipolar-Stepper-Motor-Drivers/~/media/Files/Datasheets/A4988-Datasheet.ashx
[12:49:52] <Tectu> i am also not sure if EMC can handle 16th microstep
[12:50:50] <jdhNC> it doesn't care
[12:50:57] <jdhNC> a pulse is a pulse.
[12:51:36] <micges> if it's parport, you just will get slower speeds
[12:53:04] <Tectu> ok
[12:54:06] <jdhNC> A4988 will work with the same L297 settings. It could just run a little faster.
[12:54:24] <Tectu> ok
[12:54:31] <Tectu> i can take l297 settings?
[12:55:06] <jdhNC> http://www.st.com/internet/com/TECHNICAL_RESOURCES/TECHNICAL_LITERATURE/DATASHEET/CD00000063.pdf
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[13:02:43] <alex_joni> Tectu: you can take L297 settings, but those are overly slow for the allegro chip
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[13:02:56] <alex_joni> so it would be in your best interest to take smaller numbers ;)
[13:03:35] <Loetmichel> alex_joni: btw: MY L207 are driven with about a tenth of the "l297" settings
[13:03:41] <Loetmichel> L297
[13:03:51] <Loetmichel> an d run without any step loss
[13:07:19] <alex_joni> well, you have to take your chances :)
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[13:27:37] <Jymmm> jthornton: where are you? still alive after testing the canon yesterday?
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[14:10:21] <FredrikHson> hi does anyone know of any cam program that can handle 4 axis cutting of stl files preferably free
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[14:26:38] <JT-Shop-2> http://gnipsel.com/cannon/videos/cannon01.mov
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[14:43:12] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Nice!!!
[14:43:19] <JT-Shop> thanks
[14:43:38] <JT-Shop> that was the 3rd shot as I recall
[14:43:52] <jdhNC> can't see the videos here... What do you shoot at?
[14:44:15] <JT-Shop> might take awhile to load
[14:44:20] <JT-Shop> a tree
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[14:59:28] <jdhNC> poll shows 47 percent of Americans holding an unfavorable opinion of Romney with just 35 percent viewing him favorably.
[14:59:28] <jdhNC> Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/01/why-condoleezza-rice-could-change-everything-for-romney/?intcmp=obnetwork#ixzz1uCE8ror6
[14:59:35] <jdhNC> <ooops>
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[14:59:48] <jdhNC> where's that <fail.h> when you need it.
[15:01:03] <JT-Shop> Jymmm: my web page won't update when I change an image even if I hit refresh...
[15:02:24] <jdhNC> try ctrl-refresh
[15:02:49] <skunkworks> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1mach2cnc/message/134934
[15:03:00] <JT-Shop> ctrl-mouse click on the refresh button?
[15:03:06] <jdhNC> yes
[15:03:17] <JT-Shop> that didn't work
[15:03:45] <JT-Shop> is photo 5 and 7 the same for you? http://gnipsel.com/cannon/cannon.xhtml
[15:05:25] <jdhNC> nope
[15:05:27] <Loetmichel> no
[15:05:37] <jdhNC> you are cached
[15:06:04] <FinboySlick> JT-Shop: That cherry wood?
[15:06:12] <FinboySlick> It's beautiful.
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[15:06:52] <JT-Shop> yea, got to be on my end
[15:07:22] <JT-Shop> no it is white oak with Olympic Maximum sealer or whatever you call it
[15:07:39] <JT-Shop> clear finish
[15:07:47] <JT-Shop> the wheels are hickory
[15:12:39] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop i gotta clear files out of my brouser sometimes when i'm working on my pages
[15:13:20] <JT-Shop> I'm using firefox but starting to not like it anymore
[15:13:33] <Tom_itx> i've been using it lately
[15:15:00] <Tom_itx> 8..12 didn't load
[15:16:51] <JT-Shop> silly gimp changed the extension from .jpg to .JPG and...
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[15:17:06] <JT-Shop> it will work now
[15:17:36] <Tom_itx> 10..12 didn't
[15:17:48] <JT-Shop> nothing there to load yet
[15:19:35] <JT-Shop> ok refresh now
[15:20:18] <Tom_itx> 404 File not found
[15:20:18] <Tom_itx> Well it looks like I screwed up a link.
[15:21:36] <JT-Shop> for>
[15:21:39] <JT-Shop> ?
[15:21:56] <Tom_itx> 10..12
[15:22:08] <JT-Shop> caption says "Nada" too
[15:22:17] <Tom_itx> yes it does
[15:24:48] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: hold down SHIT and click on REFRESH, if that doesn't work, then clear your browser's cache
[15:25:30] <JT-Shop> you skipped the part about me solving the problem
[15:25:44] <Jymmm> my bad
[15:25:50] <JT-Shop> LOL
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[15:40:46] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: one more photo loaded
[15:41:20] <Tom_itx> 2 more
[15:41:29] <JT-Shop> lol
[15:42:22] <Tom_itx> what's wrong with this picture? http://gnipsel.com/cannon/cannon-04.xhtml
[15:42:38] <JT-Shop> lol
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[16:07:09] <alex4nder> morning
[16:10:56] <ReadError> sup
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[16:39:04] <DrZimmerman> hello everyone
[16:39:26] <JT-Shop> yes
[16:39:33] <DJ9DJ> indeed
[16:39:35] <DJ9DJ> hi there :)
[16:39:53] <DrZimmerman> i found very little information about linuxcnc and CanOpen/CanMotion interfaces, is this supported?
[16:40:56] <JT-Shop> I'm suprised you found any information on Can that relates to linuxcnc
[16:41:21] <JT-Shop> a couple of components use modbus in user space
[16:41:43] <DrZimmerman> i found some forum entries debating this matter, but nothing usable
[16:41:51] <JT-Shop> ah, ok
[16:41:59] * djdelorie couldn't even find a cheap CAN card for the PC
[16:42:09] <DrZimmerman> hmm userspace, but i thought cnc control needs realtime kernel drivers?
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[16:42:30] <JT-Shop> yep the control does but not everything has to be real time
[16:43:07] <JT-Shop> does Can rely on a smart driver down stream from the control?
[16:47:15] * JT-Shop goes to make half of a peanut butter sandwich...
[16:48:03] <DrZimmerman> i have no clue, never used Can before but i get a new job soon in which i probably have to learn all these things and i'm dreaming of a DIY cnc since some time now
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[16:52:54] <IchGuckLive> hi all
[16:53:37] <jthornton> hi
[16:54:08] <IchGuckLive> B)
[16:54:39] <jthornton> can is not usually used with DIY cnc more of an industrial communications thing
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[16:55:46] <jthornton> we have some servo drives in some of the equipment we make that communicate amongst themselves using Can
[17:00:44] * jthornton wanders off to take a nap
[17:01:14] <IchGuckLive> i did a banana
[17:01:21] <IchGuckLive> ;-)
[17:02:41] <jthornton> a banana on my pb sandwich would have been good
[17:03:10] <IchGuckLive> sandwitch is always good i got a thuna here
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[17:24:49] <alex4nder> sup
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[17:37:23] <jdhNC> it just says " adjust them like the X one"
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[18:31:16] <JT-Shop> nots: are you using chatzilla?
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[19:18:49] <gene__> hello!
[19:19:19] <DJ9DJ> hi gene-ious
[19:19:43] <gene__> question re encoder module (howdy DJ9D)
[19:21:40] <gene__> index is not propagating, so velocity is never reset. I can start it at a 1 requested but it gradually, over the next minute or so goes up to half speed. What am I missing?
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[19:25:22] <gene__> IOW can I send Z-phase back into that same pin? It says its bidi
[19:27:59] <gene__> quick answer, no
[19:31:38] <jdhNC> ok!
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[19:40:41] <DJ9DJ_> re
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[20:17:16] <JT-Shop> gene__: you still here?
[20:29:45] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: Glad to see you still alive, didn't see you in the morning so wasn't sure =)
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[20:31:14] <tjb1> I just love windows updates :)
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[20:37:48] <JT-Shop> I'm not sure either...
[20:38:56] <Jymmm> lol
[20:39:05] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: what that you had your legs still?
[20:45:55] <JT-Shop> well peg legs now and a hook on one arm
[20:46:13] <gene__> yes, staring at halscope which shows pid.0.output is making a square wave
[20:46:43] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[20:48:30] <gene__> And occupying about 3.5 divs at 200v/div. Motor is buzzing at about 150 hz
[20:53:01] <gene__> Is there some way to turn the error gain down to stop the oscillation?
[20:53:43] <gene__> its running like a straight comparator with a deadband
[20:54:44] <JT-Shop> what ya working on gene__ ?
[20:55:15] <gene__> My lathes hal file
[20:55:34] <JT-Shop> for your spindle?
[20:56:07] <gene__> yes, trying to make the closed loop speed control work
[20:57:04] <JT-Shop> VFD drive?
[20:58:13] <gene__> whatever is in this, with one of Duncan's speed control interface boards. Normal brushed motor, and normal miini-lathe controller board.
[20:59:31] <JT-Shop> one of those c spindle drives from cnc4pc?
[20:59:42] <JT-Shop> like a C41
[20:59:46] <gene__> c41 I think
[21:01:08] <gene__> Its behaving normally until I try to plug the pid thing in, using the 1,101,201,301, ect sequence from AXIS.
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[21:02:10] <gene__> If I set the feedback signal gain way down, then it runs smoothly at about 1/3rd rps, but in 5 ninutes it will be up to 500 rpm
[21:03:11] <JT-Shop> doesn't that board take stepper pulses and convert it to PWM or something?
[21:04:32] <gene__> feedback signal is from the encoder.0.velocity (no, its a pwm to analog that connect where the hand control was on the machines board).
[21:04:56] <gene__> very simple, just optro-isolated.
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[21:08:52] <gene__> feedback is encoder.0.velocity in rps =>motion.spindle-speed-in => scale.1.in | scale.1.out=> abs.1.in => abs.1.out =>pid.0.feedback
[21:09:02] <gene__> or is supposed to be. ;-)
[21:10:40] <gene__> that feeds pwmgen.value, and that is the signal oscillating like crazy.
[21:11:06] <JT-Shop> and encoder.0 is the encoder on the spindle motor?
[21:11:16] <gene__> yes
[21:12:06] <gene__> and its working great, except for a lot of noise in the velocity output
[21:12:48] <JT-Shop> is it a home made encoder?
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[21:13:39] <gene__> yep. a pix of its output in on my web page, in Genes-os9-stf/eagle subdir
[21:15:04] <JT-Shop> what's your web page?
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[21:16:27] <gene__> I might see something that is better visualized if I landscape print that hal file and its dinner time so I'd better go feed the better half. Web pagfe is in the sig of one of my messages on the list
[21:16:46] <JT-Shop> ok
[21:16:52] <gene__> You going to be around for a few hours yet?
[21:17:02] <JT-Shop> couple at least
[21:17:28] <gene__> Ok, that is long enough to hit the steak house or something
[21:17:48] <JT-Shop> can you post your hal file to pastebin?
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[23:01:16] <r00t4rd3d> what i do
[23:01:18] <r00t4rd3d> http://imgur.com/a/9jvLj
[23:07:33] <cradek> when you do a heated floor like that, do you have to do anything special to allow it to expand and contract?
[23:14:28] <r00t4rd3d> nope
[23:14:46] <r00t4rd3d> just sets in the concrete
[23:15:02] <Tom_itx> cradek, http://eds.dyndns.org/~ircjunk/shop/dscn8680.jpg
[23:15:11] <r00t4rd3d> thats not the main heat supply
[23:15:13] <Tom_itx> rue did his shop that way as well
[23:15:32] <r00t4rd3d> just a comfort zone
[23:15:50] <cradek> heh I mean the floor changing size, not the tubing
[23:16:07] <cradek> is it just pex like for water, or is it special?
[23:16:16] <r00t4rd3d> pex
[23:16:18] <Tom_itx> yeah i think it's pex
[23:16:37] <r00t4rd3d> we poured it today
[23:16:55] <Tom_itx> rue's got a bunch of pics in that dir
[23:17:31] <jdhNC> what I do: http://www.physicstogo.org/images/features/reactorrods-large.jpg
[23:18:06] <r00t4rd3d> we normally dont do stuff like that
[23:18:32] <r00t4rd3d> just frame mainly
[23:19:54] <r00t4rd3d> only 3 of us but we had some help today
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[23:24:31] <JT-Shop> anyone have a clue what the blue thing is on top of the commutating reactor is? http://imagebin.org/211467
[23:25:27] <Jymmm> looks like it says SEIMENS
[23:25:55] <pfred1> Tom_itx looks like the baby pump hose to me
[23:31:07] <JT-Shop> yea, it does have $eimens on it
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[23:37:15] <tjb1> Is there a setting in linuxcnc to set an output if machine speed reaches 80% of program speed
[23:39:14] <JT-Shop> no, but you can roll your own
[23:39:19] <JT-Shop> in HAL
[23:43:09] <tjb1> Was that in response to my question?
[23:43:21] <JT-Shop> yep
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[23:44:32] <tjb1> Can you elaborate on that, I have never used linux
[23:44:59] <JT-Shop> has nothing to do with linux really
[23:45:12] <tjb1> Ive tried to find the setting in Mach3 and either it doesn't exist or I'm blind
[23:45:13] <JT-Shop> the hal pin motion.requested-vel has the current F number in it
[23:45:38] <JT-Shop> mack3?
[23:45:57] <tjb1> Yes, its another cnc controller software
[23:46:07] <djdelorie> my one HAL component reads the current velocity: http://www.delorie.com/cnc/machineactive.comp
[23:47:14] <tjb1> I need a way to find out when the program is cutting an arc or something that would reduce the speed from straight moves to pause the torch height control so it doesn't dive
[23:47:29] <JT-Shop> yea, I know what mack3 is what does that have to do with your question?
[23:47:41] <JT-Shop> what THC are you using?
[23:47:56] <tjb1> I am making my own
[23:48:12] <JT-Shop> what inputs does it take?
[23:48:25] <JT-Shop> an up down one or one that reads voltage?
[23:48:47] <tjb1> Using the 50:1 output on plasma, and motion start
[23:48:59] <tjb1> then running the z-step and z-dir through it
[23:49:13] <tjb1> just need a way to pause it on corners and such
[23:49:24] <JT-Shop> does your THC compare the voltage and make adjustments on Z
[23:49:41] <tjb1> yes
[23:50:06] <tjb1> Im going to use an arduino to take the 50:1 and compare it to a set number and then take over the z-step and z-dir when motion start is active
[23:50:07] <JT-Shop> did you know LinuxCNC has a THC component?
[23:50:56] <tjb1> Still waiting on it to download at the moment
[23:51:17] <JT-Shop> linuxcnc or the THC component?
[23:51:21] <tjb1> linuxcnc
[23:51:53] <JT-Shop> here is the THC componet that I wrote for the Mesa THC card http://linuxcnc.org/docview/html/man/man9/thc.9.html
[23:53:01] <JT-Shop> it is included with LinuxCNC and takes a velocity input as well as a few other inputs and hijacks the Z when enabled to keep the voltage constant
[23:55:21] <tjb1> How much is that card?
[23:55:35] <JT-Shop> holy crap it is 7pm and I've not made a cannon part yet...
[23:55:44] <JT-Shop> let me find it for you
[23:55:47] <Tom_itx> holy crap!
[23:55:54] <tjb1> Ah, found it...$199
[23:56:10] <tjb1> PCI Anything I/O - 72 I/O bits?
[23:56:47] <JT-Shop> wrong card the THC is $70
[23:57:46] <tjb1> So the 5i20 isn't needed
[23:58:41] <JT-Shop> well you need something better than the parallel port yes... I just refitted my plasma with a 5i25/7i76 combo and along with the THC card I'm good to go
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[23:59:58] <JT-Shop> 7i76 Plug-N-Go 5I25+7I76+IEEE1284 cable kit 199