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[00:22:38] <tjb1> Hey JT-Shop
[00:22:49] <tjb1> Got my 3030 extrusions for $.81 an inch
[00:23:16] <JT-Shop> nice score
[00:23:52] <JT-Shop> now tell me where the self drilling sheet metal screws with the large flat head are hiding in my shop...
[00:24:03] <tjb1> Last place you would look.
[00:24:31] <tjb1> Or probably put away in a proper location
[00:24:36] <tjb1> I lose stuff when I put it away
[00:24:53] <ReadError> i hope its the last place he would look ;)
[00:26:20] <taiden> what do you guys use for VNC on hardy?
[00:26:26] <taiden> I can't get anything to work it's driving me bonkers
[00:26:43] <taiden> finally got vnc4server to accept connections headless but linuxcnc crashes
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[00:34:42] <taiden> it's because for some reason opengl is not enabled when i VNC in
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[00:36:08] <r00t4rd3d> you cant run opengl through vnc on the remote term i do not believe
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[00:37:53] <r00t4rd3d> i could be stoned....
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[00:47:08] <ReadError> i _should_ be drunk
[00:48:04] <taiden> haha
[00:48:07] <taiden> aw man
[00:48:23] <taiden> i thought i heard of people using emc2 through vnc as a gcode simulator
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[00:56:04] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop yes i use a squeege
[00:57:22] <Tom_itx> then slide them in my easy bake oven
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[01:04:06] <Valen> works for us
[01:04:10] <Valen> vnc that is
[01:04:30] <Valen> using 10.04 it has a built in thing in gnome for vnc
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[01:04:46] <Valen> don't know if that will work headless though, i think its inside the actual session,
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[01:05:46] <taiden> headless isn't a necessity
[01:06:02] <taiden> hardy gives me much better latency
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[01:06:04] <taiden> :(
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[01:48:29] <tjb1> A real easy bake oven huh
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[01:53:11] <Tom_itx> tjb1, yup
[01:53:12] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/toaster_oven/toaster_oven_index.php
[01:53:19] <tjb1> That could be worth some money
[01:53:39] <tjb1> Oh thats not an easy bake
[01:55:30] <tjb1> I thought you were using this
[01:55:31] <tjb1> http://thecafeallegro.com/randomthoughts/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/easy-bake-oven.jpg
[01:59:00] <Tom_itx> mine works a little better
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[02:01:22] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/reflow/cooking.JPG
[02:01:38] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/boards/reflow/cooling.jpg
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[02:04:43] <taiden> do you use that for flow soldering?
[02:04:48] <taiden> or whatever it's called
[02:04:56] <taiden> paste with pick n place
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[02:06:19] <Tom_itx> yes
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[02:17:53] <uw> how do you place the parts Tom_itx?
[02:19:34] <Tom_itx> i made a pick n place wand
[02:19:50] <Tom_itx> using a hypo needle and a reversed fishtank air pump
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[02:27:41] <elmo40> anyone know of a 'deep hole' pecking cycle that will start half way in the hole (after you change to a longer drill bit) but still retract to the top of the part so chips clear out?
[02:28:10] <toastydeath> elmo40, there are more than one peck drill mode
[02:28:26] <toastydeath> i'm not sure how emc handles it, but there's an R word on most controls called the retract height
[02:28:43] <elmo40> that's not what im looking for
[02:28:46] <toastydeath> ?
[02:29:05] <toastydeath> you position the drill in the hole where you want it, but the cycle still clears to the top of the part
[02:29:13] <toastydeath> maybe i'm not understanding what you want to do
[02:29:16] <elmo40> when you change from a short pilot drill to a longer drill you start middle of the part. but to clear chips you need to retract to top of part.
[02:29:20] <toastydeath> yesd
[02:29:31] <toastydeath> and the retract height can handle that because it is bimodal
[02:30:00] <toastydeath> i'm not sure how EMC deals with it or what the relevant g code is to switch between the two modes
[02:30:14] <Tom_itx> G83 should be a deep hole cycle
[02:30:18] <elmo40> but when I put in that retract yet give the z for starting the hole, it starts the peck from the retract height.
[02:30:27] <Tom_itx> dunno how linuxcnc supports it though
[02:30:29] <elmo40> Tom_itx: sure, if you use one drill
[02:30:53] <toastydeath> elmo40, what mode is the retract height in.
[02:30:55] <Tom_itx> well if you're using 2 drills set the retract up different on the 2nd drill
[02:31:11] <toastydeath> it sounds like you're in the wrong mode
[02:31:15] <toastydeath> which is clearance mode
[02:31:33] <Tom_itx> and set your z height to the depth you've already drilled
[02:31:35] <toastydeath> where the Z height is the travel height to clear the part, and the R height is the start height for the hole
[02:31:41] <toastydeath> the other mode is reversed
[02:40:04] <elmo40> ok, let me explain, again... with a photo ;) http://image.bayimg.com/fapnpaadf.jpg
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[02:47:22] <elmo40> clear as mud?
[02:47:43] <elmo40> when I put the same retract, so it clears the chips, it wants to start from there.
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[02:48:56] <Tom_itx> that was why i suggested switching z to where you cut with the first drill
[02:49:01] <Tom_itx> and raise the retract
[02:49:03] <elmo40> but I need it to start from mid-point, but retract after each peck to the ARE
[02:49:04] <ReadError> shes complete :)
[02:49:06] <elmo40> R
[02:50:51] <Jymmm> peck drilling
[02:51:37] <Jymmm> r/2
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[02:55:26] <Tom_itx> Jymmm he wants full retract
[02:55:35] <Tom_itx> peck doesn't do that i don't think
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[02:57:01] <Jymmm> http://www.mailinglistarchive.com/html/[email protected]/2011-03/msg00708.html
[02:59:52] <Tom_itx> G73 should be flexible
[03:00:16] <Tom_itx> reducing value as you go deeper
[03:01:21] <ReadError> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25091878/Photo%20Jun%2026%2C%2010%2006%2012%20PM.jpg
[03:01:22] <Tom_itx> looks like you can use Q OR I J and K
[03:01:30] <ReadError> latest cnc project ;)
[03:05:18] <toastydeath> elmo40, that is what R can do
[03:05:42] <toastydeath> you just have to find the g or m code that tells the machine what the R value actually represents
[03:06:06] <toastydeath> because by default it uses the safe option - which is to pretend the Z height is the safe retract height, and the R height is the work height
[03:06:16] <toastydeath> You want Z to be the work height and R to be the retract height
[03:09:20] <toastydeath> (that is the default because it's easy to crash the machine drilling holes at the bottom of pockets otherwise)
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[03:15:10] <Tom_itx> yup
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[04:19:25] <Jymmm> Nice chunk of wood, but I don't have any ideas... http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/zip/3059920797.html djdelorie, you???
[04:21:53] <cpresser> Jymmm: you could slice it into pieces and make a nice finish (grind, oil). then put small markers into the annual rings and put a text next to it, indicating historical events
[04:22:10] <cpresser> have the wood tell the local history
[04:22:23] <Jymmm> nice idea
[04:23:49] <Jymmm> could even inlay the markers
[04:24:13] <cpresser> there is one in our hometown. it was covered in epoxy and polished to high gloss
[04:25:57] <cpresser> its about 400 years old; and there are markings in it for all kind of things
[04:26:33] <Thetawaves> http://nbitwonder.com/blog/tag/voip32/
[04:26:54] <Jymmm> It's FAR too big for *ME* to do anything with, but for free, would be nice for someone creative.
[04:28:50] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: since i have nfc what voip32 is, eh =)
[04:29:04] <Thetawaves> actually i was trying to show retrobsd
[04:29:11] <Thetawaves> http://retrobsd.org/
[04:29:13] <Jymmm> but that they recently added dhcp, no thanks =)
[04:30:07] <Jymmm> but I blame that on bsd more than anything else
[04:30:17] <Thetawaves> b;ame what?
[04:30:28] <cpresser> Thetawaves: thats a cool project. it might save me a lot of trouble for my upcoming PIC32-Projects :)
[04:30:50] <Thetawaves> what you doing with pic32?
[04:31:23] <Thetawaves> i got a pic32 starterkit in the mail last friday :D
[04:31:43] <cpresser> mine is still on its way... i intend to build a DMX-Recorder
[04:31:53] <Jymmm> a what?
[04:32:03] <Jymmm> is that the light show thingy?
[04:32:09] <cpresser> DMX is a digital protocol used in show lighting
[04:32:10] <Thetawaves> stage lighting
[04:32:53] <cpresser> i had to buy one for a past project.. it was expensive as hell.. so i decided to build my own :)
[04:33:07] <Jymmm> projects already exist for it
[04:33:42] <cpresser> sure.. but i still want to create my own
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[04:33:53] <Jymmm> fair enough =)
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[04:37:40] <Thetawaves> i want to build an engine controller
[04:38:21] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: for cars?
[04:38:37] <Thetawaves> no, a small generator
[04:38:45] <Jymmm> ah
[04:40:40] <Thetawaves> i also want to build a matching vawt generator
[04:40:46] <Jymmm> gas/diesel generator or some hybrid funky nuclear hydrogen generator?
[04:41:14] <Thetawaves> vawt is the wrong term
[04:41:26] <Thetawaves> but the kind of 3/5 phase generators commonly used in those
[04:41:42] <djdelorie> Jymmm: I've seen bigger
[04:42:03] <Thetawaves> if i buy a house, i'd like to tie a regular gas generator into the natural gas system
[04:42:09] <Jymmm> djdelorie: But, what would you do with it is the question
[04:42:23] <djdelorie> Peter turns them into lampshades. www.woodshades.com
[04:42:24] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: gasoline + natural gas?
[04:42:46] <Thetawaves> sure, but it will probably not see much gasoline use
[04:43:17] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: I want to get the kit to turn my eu2000 into gas/natural/propane
[04:43:26] <Jymmm> djdelorie: those are pretty
[04:43:45] <Thetawaves> have you considered just winging it?
[04:43:49] <djdelorie> they're prettier in real life, we've got one in our living room
[04:44:01] <Jymmm> $2400 holy shit
[04:44:07] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: winging it, hiw?
[04:44:42] <Thetawaves> just get that thing that turns the liquid into a gas, and use some old regulator you've got
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[04:45:04] <Thetawaves> drill a hole somewhere around the carb
[04:45:07] <Thetawaves> ???
[04:45:08] <Thetawaves> profit
[04:45:08] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: have you seen the kit in action?
[04:45:23] <Thetawaves> no
[04:45:26] <paresh> emc2 engraving with laser
[04:45:36] <Thetawaves> i have looked at the components in most kits, and there is not much there
[04:45:42] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CFYQtwIwAg&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DMNaGW5SOPas&ei=44_qT6GPBcrM2AW9r8y6AQ&usg=AFQjCNFZwoPkAn3F2yqKjtZ4fhaEt13Ufw
[04:45:46] <Jymmm> bah,
[04:45:58] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNaGW5SOPas
[04:46:14] <paresh> looking for emc2 engraving
[04:47:38] <cpresser> paresh: ask a question :)
[04:47:38] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: Some are syaing they're getting better performance with propane than gasoline too
[04:48:26] <paresh> any body did engraving with emc2 with laser ?
[04:49:00] * Jymmm suspects a z axis question coming
[04:49:20] <cpresser> paresh: yes. search for it on youtube. its possible
[04:49:38] <paresh> i already search
[04:49:49] <paresh> but some confusion
[04:53:56] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: Kinda like the idea that you can use natural gas in a pinch, but propane for long term, and gasoline for whatever
[04:56:20] <Thetawaves> natural gas would be ideal because it's provided at my door
[04:56:31] <Thetawaves> i would have to get propane delivered
[04:56:35] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: in your case, natural gas for a permantent installation, and propane for a backup
[04:56:50] <Thetawaves> yeah, exactly
[04:56:56] <Jymmm> even a few 20# tanks
[04:57:18] <Jymmm> My gen is portable, so doesn't really apply.
[04:57:26] <Thetawaves> propane stores much better than gasoline too
[04:57:33] <Jymmm> for natural gas that is
[04:57:37] <Jymmm> oh big time
[04:57:58] <Jymmm> and I have 3 20# tanks for my portable heater
[04:58:15] <Jymmm> I use in the garage =)
[04:58:23] <Jymmm> I love that lil heater!!!
[04:58:42] <Thetawaves> how long does that last?
[04:59:18] <Jymmm> 20# tank for the heater lasts about 100+ hours on the low setting
[04:59:40] <Thetawaves> impressive
[04:59:40] <Jymmm> there's only low (4000btu) and high (9000btu)
[05:00:06] <Jymmm> the Big Buddy goes up to 18000 BTU
[05:00:43] <Jymmm> It's nice in the fact that it uses 1# disposable tanks
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[05:00:50] <Jymmm> but they dont last long =)
[05:01:18] <Jymmm> so I have the 10ft hose for it that attachs to 20# tanks which I get refilled for $16 out the door
[05:02:14] <Jymmm> I picked up cheap old tanks off craigslist, then took them to Lowes for $21 exchanged for newer tanks. then I just get them refilled after that.
[05:02:30] <Thetawaves> damn!
[05:02:37] <Thetawaves> can i do that?
[05:03:25] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: They can't be older than 12 years without being recertified, but lowes will tank back ANY tank for exchange. Just be usre to select which tank you get from them so it's no mor ethan just months old.
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[05:03:39] <Jymmm> the mfg date in on the collar... yyyy-mm
[05:03:39] <Thetawaves> i bet you lowes doesn't do that here
[05:03:47] <Jymmm> I bet they will =)
[05:03:52] <Jymmm> all of them do that.
[05:04:03] <Thetawaves> cool
[05:04:07] <Jymmm> Lowes is the CHEAPEST propane exchange around.
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[05:05:24] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: Sorry, it's MM-YY on the TOP LEFT of the collar
[05:05:46] <Thetawaves> ok
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[05:06:22] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: Jan 1999 http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fe/Propane_tank_20lb.jpg
[05:06:52] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: see it?
[05:07:22] <Thetawaves> yeah i see i t
[05:07:37] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: =)
[05:07:55] <alex4nder> yoh
[05:07:57] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: Great way to get cheap tanks
[05:08:44] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: BTW, the newest tanks at lowes seem to have a glossy paint finish on them too
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[05:12:10] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: Nicer setup it seems http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpknaAPTQ9U
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[05:19:01] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: WOW, that's one of the best intuitive videos I've ever seen on YT.
[05:19:11] <Thetawaves> yeah thats a good setup
[05:20:00] <Thetawaves> same components though
[05:20:13] <Thetawaves> i wonder if it's possible to diy that liquid->gas converter
[05:20:22] <Thetawaves> in the hot climates, you might not even need that
[05:20:26] <Jymmm> Oh sure, but a far better setup... quick release. no bulky regulator bolted to the side
[05:20:51] <Jymmm> Though I would sorta reinforce the 2nd reg on the tank.... looks scary =)
[05:21:18] <Thetawaves> i was thinking that too
[05:21:56] <Jymmm> Maybe the 1st attached to the tank with a 12" hose to the 2nd reg "hanging" aroudn the ring of the tank.
[05:22:22] <Jymmm> or even MAG mount to the tnak itself
[05:23:02] <Thetawaves> i was thinking stack the regulator and converter
[05:23:10] <Thetawaves> with u pipe
[05:23:12] <Jymmm> NICE.... at the end he just disconects the quick release while it's running and no gas leaks
[05:24:03] <Jymmm> I was thinking a "ring" around the neck of the tank, connected to a L bracket, then a magnet so it doesn't flop around.
[05:25:17] <Jymmm> The ring having a 9" ID to just slip over the neck and a 10 or 11" OD
[05:25:39] <Thetawaves> -0.5wc? hmmmmm
[05:25:46] <Jymmm> vacuum
[05:25:56] <Jymmm> but I have nfc on those regulators
[05:27:11] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: This is the hose I bought. The are now black with no plastisizers in them http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200362084_200362084
[05:27:24] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: no wrench needed either
[05:28:51] <Jymmm> This is the BIG Buddy http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200307957_200307957
[05:29:39] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: This is the one I have http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200395499_200395499
[05:29:52] <Jymmm> that's a good price too $80
[05:30:36] <Jymmm> Thetawaves: you can buy the adapter to refill #1 tanks from 20# tanks too if you like
[05:38:19] <Thetawaves> hmmm
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[06:45:01] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[07:02:30] <Jymmm> hola
[07:04:48] <micges> ahoj
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[08:16:34] <samkan> Hi, is it possible to merge a two hal file in one? sounds strange question?
[08:17:02] <samkan> but Yes, i need to merge two hal file in one, I am using linux cnc for raster as well as vector and both hal file are different
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[08:29:41] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[08:35:07] <ReadError> hey
[08:39:12] <paresh> hal file understanding ?
[08:43:06] <samkan> anyone there..?
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[09:37:52] <samkan> Hi need help on hal file !! anyone out there... !!
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[11:20:04] <gmagno> hello, you guys know the best way to verify if a nema 17 motor is working? I bought one of those TB6560 driver board + 3x nema 17 motors kit, but since I can't put it to work with the linuxCNC software, I am considering the motors might have some problem (it is always hardware fault... :P ) How can I check if the stepper motors are ok?
[11:21:12] <gmagno> I am considering applying some voltage to one of the coils, but I wouldn't like to burn the motor... :-/ This is the kit I bought: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300654822440?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
[11:22:37] <Valen> if the voltage is below the voltage stamped on the motor it should be ok
[11:25:58] <gmagno> Valen, THe problem is that I can't find a max specified voltage... They say the motor has the following current and resistance scpecifications: 1.8ohm/phase and 1.8A/phase. Should the operating voltage be 1.8*1.8? :-S
[11:26:12] <Valen> V = IR
[11:26:20] <Valen> so yes
[11:36:07] <gmagno> Ok, I should find a 3V power supply now... :-S
[11:36:20] <Valen> just use a AA battery
[11:36:31] <Valen> you should see it jump and it'll be hard to turn
[11:39:16] <gmagno> Valen, gonna do just that!
[11:41:14] <gmagno> Valen, there should be no problem in actuating only one coil as far as i know, right? (there are some shaft positions where only one of the coils is being actuated, right?)
[11:42:30] <Valen> should be fine
[11:42:47] <Valen> disconnect it from any other electronics first though
[11:50:33] <jthornton> archivist, for your amusement http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tutorial/index.html
[11:53:56] <mrsun> oo nice =)
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[11:57:06] <jdh> gmagno: do the motors lock up when you power the board?
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[12:01:11] <gmagno> jdh, I'm not sure what lock up means, but when I run the stepconf wizard, and test one of the axis, pressing the arrows I can hear that typical sound of a shaft turning, but nothing really moves... It sounds like something is moving inside but the shaft does not
[12:02:37] <Tom_itx> then maybe they are wired wrong
[12:03:04] <Loetmichel> gmagno: when the drivers are powered the Stepeprs should be "locked" in place, if you try to turn them by hand you have to use MUCH more force opposed to drivers being off
[12:03:07] <Tom_itx> i use a 1.5v battery to find what i need sometimes
[12:03:09] <Tom_itx> or a meter
[12:04:06] <Loetmichel> hmm, do you have couplings on the stepper shafts?
[12:04:41] <Loetmichel> maybe the stepeprs turn but the leadsrews not because of slipping couplings?
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[12:09:11] <jdh> or step timings are way off
[12:09:16] <gmagno> Loetmichel, I have the motors unloaded. They only have a little flag to tell me if they move. About the wiring, I'm almost sure (I'm never completely sure about anything...) that they are well connected. Ive done some measurements with a multimeter and also did that test of turning the shaft when a coil is shunted
[12:10:31] <gmagno> ok, I just did that test of applying a DC battery to the motor, and the shaft did move a tiny bit which I believe is good
[12:10:44] <gmagno> gonna do that for the other two
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[12:16:23] <Loetmichel> gmagno: if you connect the two coils of the stepper in this manner to the battery the stepper should move continously (one tiny step at a time)
[12:16:25] <Loetmichel> coil1 + -
[12:16:25] <Loetmichel> coil2 + -
[12:16:25] <Loetmichel> coil1 - +
[12:16:25] <Loetmichel> coil2 - +
[12:16:25] <Loetmichel> repeat from start
[12:17:05] <Loetmichel> if it does: steppers ok, then something with your drivers and/or cabling isnt ok
[12:20:12] <jdh> do all steppers fail to operate?
[12:20:41] <gmagno> jdh, yes. Loetmichel, is that a series, or paralel?
[12:21:05] <Loetmichel> gmagno: that is seperate
[12:21:24] <Loetmichel> coil 1 energized +- , coil2 open
[12:21:26] <jdh> not likely to be a motor problem then.
[12:21:34] <Loetmichel> coil 1 energized +- , coil1 open
[12:21:36] <Loetmichel> and so on
[12:21:58] <gmagno> Loetmichel, how should th shaft move continuously?
[12:22:03] <Loetmichel> thats the full step sequence the stepper driver does also
[12:22:38] <Loetmichel> every time you energize a coil in this sequence the shaft will move a step in the same direction
[12:22:56] <gmagno> ah i see
[12:24:16] <gmagno> jdh, I'm almost sure now that it is not a motor problem. I'm gonna do the energizing sequence Loetmichel suggests
[12:25:13] <Loetmichel> gmagno: do you have the right pins in the linuxcnc config?
[12:25:48] <Loetmichel> 'cause the "movement sound" but no movement has occured to me as i had spitched the pins for step and dir in the config
[12:25:55] <Loetmichel> switched
[12:26:07] <Loetmichel> accidentally
[12:26:36] <Loetmichel> which driver board do you have?
[12:27:05] <gmagno> I'm following this guy procedure: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiXjSZ3tIr0 My board is this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/300654822440?_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
[12:28:36] <Loetmichel> so do you have a pinout of YOUR driver board?
[12:28:49] <Loetmichel> to verify the io pins in LinuxCNC?
[12:29:32] <gmagno> Loetmichel, you mean for the paralel port, right?
[12:29:40] <Loetmichel> correct
[12:30:12] <Loetmichel> IIRC the normal tb6560 board uses a different pinning as in the youtube video
[12:30:17] <Loetmichel> i have some here ;-)
[12:30:23] <Loetmichel> boards
[12:31:03] <Loetmichel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=oiXjSZ3tIr0#t=6s <- this looks wrong for tb6560-boards
[12:31:39] <gmagno> Loetmichel, I found the pinout, I have some documentation the chineese guys sent me by email :)
[12:32:06] <Loetmichel> so look into your confing if its correct
[12:32:09] <gmagno> gonna check if it corresponds to the settings current settings
[12:32:14] <gmagno> yup
[12:32:17] <gmagno> one sec
[12:37:29] <gmagno> Loetmichel, I'm not sure about some of the pins, for instance, there is one pin that says "All axis enable"... there is no similar function in stepconf pinout configuration :-/any idea which should be?
[12:38:49] <gmagno> should it be "Amplifier Enable"?
[12:39:45] <gmagno> going to try that one
[12:40:21] <gmagno> and I'm going to ignore the Mill to PC signals (limits)
[12:44:55] <gmagno> weird
[12:46:13] <Loetmichel> gmagno: just a moment, booting my cnc
[12:47:22] <gmagno> the motors now emit a sound like TV static. And when I press the button to text the axis they shut up and the board does a CLICK out loud.
[12:47:37] <Loetmichel> hrhr
[12:47:45] <Loetmichel> the clic could be the spindle
[12:47:47] <Loetmichel> relais
[12:48:01] <Loetmichel> the static is a good sign
[12:48:04] <gmagno> right! Let me try it again
[12:48:17] <Loetmichel> its the pulsed current through the motors
[12:48:33] <Loetmichel> sounds more or less like an opened tap
[12:48:36] <Loetmichel> water tap
[12:49:21] <gmagno> Loetmichel, that click is the relays indeed. About the TV static sound do you think it is ok?
[12:49:52] <Loetmichel> yeah
[12:50:04] <Loetmichel> hmm, my stepconf is german
[12:50:25] <Loetmichel> here the enable pin is labeled "endstufe aktivieren"
[12:50:39] <Loetmichel> more or less "enable drivers"
[12:51:09] <gmagno> =D
[12:51:26] <gmagno> that's why I use everything in english :) I'm portuguese
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[12:51:47] <Loetmichel> wait a moment, i will boot a linuxcnc-cd in english
[12:51:49] <delkin> ora boas, pessoal
[12:51:52] <gmagno> ok
[12:51:55] <gmagno> boas
[12:52:14] <gmagno> hey delkin, Loetmichel is helping me with our board
[12:52:35] <delkin> that's great, gmagno
[12:52:45] <gmagno> guess what, our paralel port pinout cofiguration was wrong... :P
[12:53:05] <Loetmichel> can you upload a photo of the pinout somewhere?
[12:53:17] <gmagno> Loetmichel, I'm uploading the pdf file
[12:53:20] <Loetmichel> the LPT pinout of the driver board
[12:53:22] <Loetmichel> ok
[12:55:05] <Loetmichel> ok, should be amplifier enable ;-)
[12:55:20] <gmagno> Loetmichel, can you DL this file? http://www.4shared.com/office/u4APYs7v/3_axis_TB6560_english_user_man.html
[12:55:22] <Loetmichel> waiting for the pinout so i can tell you the config
[12:55:31] <gmagno> sry for the delay
[12:55:43] <Loetmichel> no
[12:55:47] <Loetmichel> no login there
[12:58:13] <Loetmichel> sorry
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[13:01:15] <gmagno> Loetmichel, sry for the delay once again...
[13:01:17] <gmagno> http://duxe.ru/load/TB6560HQ%20T3%20blue.pdf
[13:01:47] <gmagno> page 7
[13:01:54] <Loetmichel> lokking at it, one moment
[13:09:22] <Loetmichel> gmagno: THAT should work... if you have no limot/home switchecs at the moment: set the switch pins to "unused" -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13379
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[13:16:34] <gmagno> Loetmichel, I'm using exacly those settings, but the shafts don't move using the test axis window... :-/ Could it be the other parameters problem? Max vel and acce? Would you please look at my stepconf file? http://i.minus.com/1340889303/mGhz2_39jihUPACMgR1EvQ/dbqjIx2zRPRx2V/tb6560.stepconf
[13:19:32] <gmagno> I'm using the following dip switches configuration: "current setting: 50%*2.5A"; "decay: Fast decay"; and "microstepping: 1/2"
[13:21:58] <Loetmichel> just a moment
[13:22:38] <gmagno> sure, ty
[13:24:58] <Loetmichel> hmm, firefoxx crahses...
[13:25:04] <Loetmichel> loading that file...
[13:25:05] <Loetmichel> strange
[13:25:12] <gmagno> =-o
[13:25:57] <gmagno> try this one http://minus.com/mqEpkZ7F8/
[13:26:29] <gmagno> and then click the blue "download" link
[13:27:51] <jdh> what are you going to drive with those tiny motors?
[13:28:06] <Loetmichel> tiny?
[13:28:10] <Loetmichel> theyre BIG ;-)
[13:28:16] <Loetmichel> comparing to my mill
[13:28:22] <Loetmichel> i have 1A motors on mine
[13:28:33] <Loetmichel> sooo
[13:29:15] <Loetmichel> gmagno: does the white noise disappear if you click on "test axis"?
[13:29:19] <gmagno> yup
[13:29:44] <Loetmichel> then try to check the "invert" on pin1
[13:29:51] <gmagno> ok
[13:29:53] <gmagno> one sec
[13:31:08] <gmagno> YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
[13:31:11] <gmagno> :)
[13:31:17] <gmagno> it's MOVING!!!!
[13:31:19] <Loetmichel> problem solved ;-)
[13:31:20] <gmagno> EHEHEHEEH
[13:31:25] <gmagno> thanks a lot!!
[13:32:01] <gmagno> :DDDD
[13:32:07] <gmagno> all three are moving
[13:32:54] * Loetmichel had somewhre in memory that the tb6560 uses a low-active Enable ;-)
[13:34:00] <gmagno> ^_^ thanks a lot
[13:34:04] <gmagno> this was eating my brain
[13:34:15] <gmagno> taking my sleep
[13:35:17] <Loetmichel> gmagno: a tip from a user of this drivers: NEVER disconnect a motor when the drivers are powered
[13:35:36] <Loetmichel> or reverse polarity of the supply
[13:35:56] <Loetmichel> will result in this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12554
[13:36:54] <gmagno> :D
[13:37:00] <gmagno> thanks for warning
[13:37:51] <Loetmichel> no problem
[13:38:16] <Loetmichel> wasnt TAHT bad, found the problem with the cooling while chanign the driver chips:
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[13:38:44] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12670
[13:40:03] <Loetmichel> jdh: its all in the intended use ofh the mill
[13:40:16] <Loetmichel> MINE can even mill in a cars trunk on a convention...
[13:40:17] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12691
[13:40:18] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[13:41:33] <Loetmichel> ... or take it to the company and work there... http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12180
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[13:46:09] <archivist> jthornton, my last couple of weeks work in reply http://www.archivist.info/apt/aptos/apt360/doc/manual/vocab.html
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[13:56:01] <jdh> how do you pronounce hardinge
[13:56:38] <cradek> arrrr-dingie
[13:56:52] <cradek> the h is silent
[13:57:21] <cradek> (but really I have no idea)
[13:57:34] <jdh> heh, that's the 3rd one I've heard (of)
[13:59:44] * Loetmichel imagines cradek with eyepatsch, wooden leg and hook instead of hand ;-)
[13:59:53] <Loetmichel> -s
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[14:01:29] <cradek> it's not the leaving of liverpool that grieves me!
[14:06:14] <archivist> we English pronounce the H and the g
[14:07:00] <jdh> har-dinge?
[14:07:29] <archivist> yup
[14:08:05] <Loetmichel> why "ghoti" comes to mind?
[14:08:06] <Loetmichel> ;-)
[14:10:47] <jdh> does APT exist elsewhere?
[14:15:10] <archivist> what do you mean by "exist"
[14:15:27] <jdh> is it still in use anywhere?
[14:15:58] <Loetmichel> on every debian based system?
[14:16:09] <jdh> do any controls use it? Or do things process it to RS274?
[14:16:16] <archivist> different apt Loetmichel
[14:16:22] <Loetmichel> is see now ;-)
[14:16:53] <archivist> apt does not live on controls
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[14:17:49] <archivist> the post processor converts the output to gcode for the machine in use
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[14:19:54] <jdh> ahh.. I missed that part.
[14:19:55] <archivist> it is still in use in many places, probably mostly aerospace
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[15:36:29] <mazafaka> Loetmichel: my workbench^ http://s3.images.drive2.ru/car.journal.photos/x8/3860/000/000/0a4/94e/48cf1f6369553473-large.jpg
[15:38:02] <mazafaka> And http://s3.images.drive2.ru/car.journal.photos/x8/3860/000/000/0a4/90e/48cf1f608fbf7078-large.jpg
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[15:53:42] <anonimasu> 140 acetal parts to make tomorrow :)
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[15:57:08] <Pareshchaudhary> engraving with out z ?
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[16:55:00] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
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[16:57:17] <micges> hi
[16:57:53] <IchGuckLive> micges: can you direct me to the place where the all G5x Zero entry Button is in the Mashine menue
[16:57:57] <IchGuckLive> i cand find it
[16:59:35] <micges> I don't understand
[17:01:05] <IchGuckLive> if been told by -> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CoordinateSystems#Zero_Coordinate_System tat there is somthing that resets all G5x to zero with a buttonpress
[17:01:30] <IchGuckLive> Zero Coordinate System in the Machine menu its not there
[17:02:41] <IchGuckLive> im on 2.6.0-pre0-3090-g2368c21
[17:04:42] <micges> easiest is to put zeros into var file to parameters 5221 to 5390
[17:04:54] <micges> while emc closed
[17:06:19] <IchGuckLive> i know that but for a teatching lesson its not practical
[17:06:30] <micges> I don't see zero all button
[17:06:45] <IchGuckLive> with 50 people in the classrom
[17:07:01] <IchGuckLive> ok i ask jep
[17:07:09] <IchGuckLive> wher he lost that
[17:07:56] <micges> docs says that there is 9 buttons to zero 9 coord systems
[17:08:50] <IchGuckLive> but thay will then get the current position
[17:09:00] <IchGuckLive> and axis will display them in lines
[17:09:10] <IchGuckLive> so Zero entry woudt be best
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[17:34:48] <A0Sheds> hmmm..... still no megawatt Stirling engines for sale
[17:38:34] <A0Sheds> having a difficult time finding lower temp pressure steam turbines as well
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[17:39:09] <A0Sheds> I'm starting to think i should make them and then get paid not to sell them by the energy co's
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[17:45:56] <IchGuckLive> A0Sheds: in the National museom
[17:47:37] <Loetmichel> oi, the cinese have delivered the ramps1.4 in less than 3 days... somwewhere over ther must be a maildove with burning tail ;-) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=13382 ... now i can build a reprap prusa mendel ;-)
[17:54:44] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: i recived a Lathe part from Friday 16MESZ to Monday 10MESZ from HK
[17:55:01] <IchGuckLive> 45USD by DHL
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[17:57:09] <taiden> afternoon gents
[17:57:15] <IchGuckLive> B)
[17:57:22] <taiden> here to bug you all again :)
[17:57:41] <IchGuckLive> Plese Plese !
[17:57:42] <taiden> what file are the parallel port settings in? Since I added backlash to my ini file I cannot use stepconf to make changes
[17:57:52] <IchGuckLive> HAL
[17:57:56] <taiden> just added spindle control and want to get it working!
[17:59:32] <IchGuckLive> What Spindelcontroller
[18:00:01] <taiden> its just a dc relay for on/off
[18:00:11] <taiden> so not full control sadly!
[18:00:36] <IchGuckLive> yes DC is a miss
[18:00:54] <taiden> ?
[18:01:00] <IchGuckLive> how many ams does the spindel pull
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[18:01:29] <IchGuckLive> amps at V
[18:03:00] <IchGuckLive> you can use a full dualbrige for that
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[18:03:20] <taiden> it works!
[18:03:35] <IchGuckLive> as a PWM speed control
[18:03:42] <taiden> 5.6a @ 120v
[18:03:49] <taiden> AC
[18:03:58] <taiden> would like a PID controller
[18:04:12] <taiden> would be neat to try to make PID control for emc2
[18:04:45] <taiden> just use a solid state relay connected to my gecko with emc2 outputting pwm with pid logic
[18:05:02] <taiden> not sure if it can handle the frequency required for that though, i dont now much about it
[18:05:15] <IchGuckLive> 18USD at EBAY
[18:05:25] <taiden> for what?
[18:09:02] <IchGuckLive> i misst the speed in the pid its just temp controlled
[18:10:04] <IchGuckLive> by im off
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[18:14:51] <taiden> I wish my german was better
[18:15:42] <mrsun> wth, you need to anneal a clay graphite crucible? :)
[18:16:22] <syyl_ws_> ah, mrsun :D
[18:16:31] <mrsun> what? :P
[18:16:41] <syyl_ws_> made some models today
[18:16:44] <syyl_ws_> for casting
[18:16:45] <syyl_ws_> :)
[18:16:59] <mrsun> =)
[18:17:11] * mrsun does not like his country, impossible to find stuff in it :/
[18:17:18] <mrsun> like clay graphite crucibles :P
[18:17:18] <syyl_ws_> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/2012-06-27_15-08-13_308.jpg
[18:17:42] <syyl_ws_> i went the easy way, machining them from solid--
[18:17:58] <syyl_ws_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGv_PrD4WdM
[18:18:05] <syyl_ws_> kind a mess ;)
[18:18:34] <mrsun> machinable waz?
[18:18:37] <mrsun> wax
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[18:19:20] <syyl_ws_> renshape highdensity polyurethane foam
[18:19:21] <syyl_ws_> :)
[18:19:33] <syyl_ws_> especialy for model making
[18:19:37] <mrsun> your camera does wacky stuff :P
[18:20:01] <mrsun> either that or your machine is made of rubber :P
[18:20:08] <syyl_ws_> ah, thats the anti-shaking feature of youtube
[18:20:16] <syyl_ws_> i will undo that
[18:20:19] <mrsun> hehe =)
[18:20:20] <mrsun> ok =)
[18:20:29] <mrsun> nice patterns =)
[18:20:36] <mrsun> i should use the mill more for patterns
[18:20:46] <mrsun> hell even got a 1.5 degree endmill for the purpouse =)
[18:21:01] <syyl_ws_> uh, nice :)
[18:21:07] <syyl_ws_> thats what i am still missing
[18:21:17] <syyl_ws_> but these days its pretty hard to get
[18:21:20] <syyl_ws_> them
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[18:22:09] <mrsun> syyl_ws_, china ... :P
[18:22:13] <mrsun> ctctools.biz
[18:23:08] * syyl_ws_ backs off
[18:23:10] <syyl_ws_> no way :D
[18:23:45] <mrsun> omg
[18:23:55] <mrsun> far bellow half the price in sweden to freakin buy it from the uk
[18:24:52] <mrsun> but to high weight to buy 4 of them :P
[18:24:54] <andypugh> I also have some tapered cutters from ctctools.biz I find they offer a very good service if you can wait a week.
[18:26:10] <mrsun> ive bought alot of stuff there, and havent been disapointed in more then the carbide scribe that is like a pen they have ... broke in the second click :p
[18:28:24] <andypugh> syyl_: Where do you get your HDPE foam board from? I can only find it in large lumps. priced to match
[18:28:36] <syyl_ws_> we get it sheetwise...
[18:28:50] <syyl_ws_> about 1200x600mm or so
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[18:28:55] <andypugh> Ah. I think someone ought to sell hobby-sized lumps on that eBay
[18:29:17] <syyl_ws_> i use scrap pieces for my specialprojects.. :D
[18:31:33] <mrsun> BAAH THEY HAVE EVERYTHING ABROAD
[18:31:36] <mrsun> ffs :/
[18:31:46] <mrsun> insulating firebricks, clay graphite crucibles to a reasonable price
[18:31:53] <syyl_ws_> oh
[18:32:10] <mrsun> but hey. .. i live in freakin sweden where bad weather and mosquitos is the song and not a single company sells fun stuff :/
[18:33:18] <mrsun> not even the smallest crucible i can buy aparently
[18:33:25] <mrsun> cause weight is to high ... wth
[18:33:35] <archivist> start an interesting parts company
[18:35:00] <mrsun> im starting to think i will have to become an importer of stuff and sell it online in sweden, this is redicilous .. finding one company in sweden that sells crucibles, but tehy are double the price in the uk and they only got small ones
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[18:36:04] <mrsun> but ofc, they are targeted to like jewlery making also
[18:38:09] <andypugh> mrsun: In the UK, I know, but this place looks useful: http://www.johnwinter.co.uk/model-engineering/model-engineering
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[18:46:09] <mrsun> Please note: If you get the message "Goods are too heavy" you are probably trying to buy online for an overseas destination which this site does not cater for. In such instances please email us
[18:46:10] <mrsun> ahh there =)
[18:46:25] <mrsun> guess i have to mail them then .. and hope the shipment wouldnt be to bad
[18:46:31] <mrsun> and its inside the eu .. no tolls :P
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[18:47:36] <mrsun> wth the prices are sick
[18:47:50] <mrsun> �15 for 1600 degree castable refractory at 25kg bags?!"
[18:48:01] <mrsun> i have to give like 10 times that here :/
[18:48:09] <syyl_> sand?
[18:48:49] <archivist> pay my diesel money and I will bring a car load
[18:49:22] <mrsun> archivist, haha :P
[18:49:27] <archivist> +expenses :)
[18:49:38] <mrsun> right, how much can your car carry ? :P
[18:50:00] <mrsun> washington dc ?
[18:50:09] <mrsun> that will be an expensive round trip :�p
[18:50:38] <andypugh> I thought you were in Sweden?
[18:50:43] <archivist> he is
[18:51:00] <mrsun> but archivist isnt :P
[18:51:09] <andypugh> Nor is he in Wshinton DC
[18:51:24] <mrsun> oh
[18:51:27] <mrsun> whois said so :P
[18:51:35] <mrsun> lol
[18:51:38] <mrsun> thats the freenode server
[18:51:39] <mrsun> haha
[18:51:47] <archivist> I did a little trip sunday afternoon after fitting the wheel bearing...332 miles
[18:52:19] <mrsun> 534km .... that wouldnt cut it to get here i guess :P
[18:52:51] <andypugh> Hmm, John Winter are 12 miles from my parents. COuld be handy
[18:53:02] <archivist> speaking of which.. wheel bearings look like a cheap ballscrew end bearing
[18:53:30] <mrsun> compact bearings i guess is the same thing
[18:53:40] <mrsun> two angular contact bearings
[18:54:06] <archivist> mine has a common outer but yes
[18:54:07] <andypugh> Yes, I looked at them a while back because they come in some odd sizes.
[18:54:17] <mrsun> archivist, yes, common outer, divided inner
[18:54:35] <mrsun> two angular contact bearings that is spaces as they should :P
[18:54:51] <archivist> and the price is right ish
[18:55:05] <andypugh> Especially if you work for a car company.
[18:55:14] <mrsun> http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00reltVnKsAhoz/Automobile-Wheel-Bearing.jpg those right? :)
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[18:56:00] <archivist> yes mine looked similar
[18:56:01] <mrsun> no its roller bearings in them :P
[18:56:09] <mrsun> or angular contact
[18:56:17] <mrsun> heh, comes in two types
[18:56:25] <mrsun> http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00YRztWcaGDEKp/Double-Row-Angular-Contact-Bearing-for-Wheel-Hub-One-Generation.jpg
[18:57:01] <archivist> this being the part I used fleabay 170775839455
[18:57:02] <mrsun> i wonder how rigid they are .. thinking spindle bearing :P
[18:57:53] <archivist> for a spindle one may want to remove the seal for less friction
[18:58:24] <mrsun> tho they arent adjustable :/
[18:59:33] <archivist> I assume they will preload when done up tight, so no adjustment needed
[18:59:49] <mrsun> archivist, yeah but when they wear then ? :)
[18:59:51] <archivist> does mean good press fits etc
[19:04:14] <Jymmm> I really don't know how useful this information is to anyone, but 1" 8020 extrusion fits perfectly at a 45 degree angle into a 0.125" thick wall 0.750" wide aluminum C-Channel... http://i46.tinypic.com/2l9456s.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/xwtxw.jpg http://i49.tinypic.com/28vaej6.jpg http://i50.tinypic.com/2illnog.jpg
[19:05:13] <Jymmm> with maybe a 0.020" play
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[19:10:37] <mrsun> finaly found a company in sweden that actualy sells graphite crucibles =)
[19:14:40] <mrsun> but like usual, no webshop so have to call or email
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[20:19:40] <JT-Shop> I need a small cost effective servo with a dumb drive... any clues where to look?
[20:20:50] <cradek> very old hp inkjet printers/plotters (original deskjet, old designjet)
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[20:36:53] <JT-Shop> thanks, I should have said something about needing off the shelf that I can buy as many as I want
[20:38:09] <archivist> and what size you need :)
[20:44:17] <Tom_itx> someone posted a link to a servo here maybe a week or two ago that looked rather appealing but i don't have the link handy
[20:45:18] <Tom_itx> NEMA size 23 iirc
[20:48:15] <Loetmichel> *grrr*... me looks on the calendar: is it REALLY not monday? literally 1000s of screwdriver bits... and have to search half an hour for the ONE PZ2 bit left... and then: battery drill empty after the second screw... :-(
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[20:51:29] <archivist> next time get a box of 50 pz2 bits
[20:51:48] <archivist> then all the missing ones will reappear
[20:56:23] <Loetmichel> archivist: thats likeley to happen ;)
[20:56:35] <andypugh> JT what sort of torque/power?
[20:57:42] <andypugh> Jon has some: http://pico-systems.com/osc2.5/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=27
[20:57:50] <archivist> Loetmichel, I spent half a day or more a week ago putting all the bits back into the original sets
[20:57:52] <Tom_itx> http://www.servo-drive.com/servomotors_servodrive_servomotors.php
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[20:58:38] <Loetmichel> <- quickcharging the drill... thank god for the model computer charger ;-)
[21:00:09] <JT-Shop> something along the torque you get from a 7.2v cordless
[21:00:18] <Tom_itx> http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/nema23-m-dc-servo-motor
[21:00:26] <andypugh> How about a 7.2V cordless?
[21:00:27] <Tom_itx> $60
[21:00:50] <JT-Shop> it has to run all day long for a long time
[21:01:01] <JT-Shop> and I need encoder feedback
[21:01:12] <Tom_itx> AC or DC?
[21:01:25] <JT-Shop> doesn't matter
[21:01:28] <JT-Shop> at this point
[21:01:36] <Tom_itx> ^^
[21:02:40] <Tom_itx> about $100 by the time you add the encoder
[21:04:18] <DJ9DJ> gn8
[21:04:59] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: yea something like that
[21:05:11] <JT-Shop> what does skewed rotor mean?
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[21:05:23] <Tom_itx> the rotor shims are skewed
[21:05:28] <Tom_itx> not straight across
[21:05:40] <JT-Shop> what does that do?
[21:05:51] <Tom_itx> beats the hell outta me.
[21:05:57] <Tom_itx> it smooths the torque?
[21:06:02] <JT-Shop> lol me too
[21:06:10] <Tom_itx> i think that's what it does
[21:06:35] <andypugh> Reduces cogging.
[21:06:50] <JT-Shop> lol it is a keling motor
[21:07:02] <Tom_itx> well that just figures
[21:07:16] <Tom_itx> i bet i could put you in contact with a china source i have
[21:07:35] <andypugh> If you go to Kelininc.com it says "please visit out now web site, automationtechnolgies….
[21:07:55] <Tom_itx> oh yeah i got a notice about that the other day
[21:08:05] <Tom_itx> didn't really register with me though
[21:08:28] <JT-Shop> ok, it is there new web site then
[21:09:19] <JT-Shop> the other part of the puzzle is I need to be able to just tell it to turn 3 times or some degrees of turn... real simple commands
[21:10:38] <andypugh> JT-Shop: WillemCMD id playing a simlar game. He is using HAL and a GaldeVCP GUI, but not the rest of LinuxCNC
[21:11:24] <JT-Shop> I actually want to get lower level than that and not have a pc at all in the loop
[21:11:25] <andypugh> So, Glade button sends target position to Limit3 component drives PID or Stepgen. Second button sets the tarhet positin back to home.
[21:11:26] <andypugh> ]
[21:11:28] <JT-Shop> any ideas?
[21:11:44] <andypugh> You said you wanted a dumb drive.
[21:11:58] <andypugh> Sounds like a job for a semi-smart drive.
[21:12:49] <andypugh> My experience has been that when you try to take a PC out of a system the alternatives cost more, and are a lot more difficult to reconfigure when the customer changes their mind.
[21:13:06] <Tom_itx> hmm somebody that makes those smart drives got one of my programmers.. i can't remember who it was now
[21:13:21] <andypugh> Paybe have a word with that spammer on the Forum. His PC is very tiny,
[21:13:46] <andypugh> The answer is probably an Arduino. It normally is.
[21:14:07] <JT-Shop> I was kinda thinking that the Arduino was a key part
[21:15:33] <andypugh> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/390431979950 (just saw it, not an answer to this question)
[21:17:27] <andypugh> The answer to the question might be the DMM-tech drive/motor combo with step-dir command from the Arduino: http://www.dmm-tech.com
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[21:19:06] <andypugh> Prices are at the lower end: http://www.dmm-tech.com/Files/DMMTechnology_pricelist_Rev.1.2.pdf
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[21:20:45] * JT-Shop looking
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[21:30:07] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, do you have any specs on your servo motor?
[21:30:48] <JT-Shop> no, I'm just at the guess stage
[21:31:08] <Tom_itx> that guy in china may have a source if you need several
[21:31:45] <Tom_itx> he found an mpg for me but i'd already gotten one
[21:32:48] <Tom_itx> i got my last batch of pcbs from him
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[21:37:34] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Another alternative might be a Mesa card running SoftDMC rather than Hostmot2.
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[21:48:04] <JT-Shop> andypugh: thanks
[21:48:29] <andypugh> For which bit?
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[21:51:30] <JT-Shop> SoftDMC
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[21:54:41] <Tom_itx> what's this crazy double barrel cannon i see on pawn stars
[21:54:55] * Tom_itx thinks JT-Shop may need one of those
[21:56:54] <JT-Shop> got 3 cannons now in the shop, don't need any more!
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[21:58:40] <Loetmichel> Tom_itx: cannon? or do you mean the 2011 .45?
[21:59:22] <Tom_itx> it was a cannon
[21:59:41] <Loetmichel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-DGaNmtA0 <- found that extremly useless
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[22:03:20] <Tom_itx> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6133INUwLuE&feature=related
[22:03:28] <Tom_itx> may not be the same one but similar
[22:04:38] <uw> lol still pointing north
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[22:22:12] <andypugh> I guess if it has a common "combustion chamber" then timing the balls wouldn't be quite as hard.
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[22:39:45] <r00t4rd3d> im getting me a Nexus 7
[22:40:07] <r00t4rd3d> google, asus, nvidia = 199
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[23:17:21] <andypugh> Night all
[23:17:33] <Jymmm> nite andypugh
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[23:39:35] <r00t4rd3d> have horrible dreams!
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