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[00:06:06] <tjb1> hey r00t
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[00:11:33] <r00t4rd3d> hey
[00:12:55] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: yes, just tuning the drives
[00:13:20] <JT-Shop> I still have some selector switches to install and a few minor things
[00:13:23] <tjb1> I finished all 6 carriages :)
[00:13:26] <tjb1> not one screwup or problem
[00:13:31] <tjb1> Im proud of myself haha
[00:13:51] <JT-Shop> carriages?
[00:13:55] <r00t4rd3d> good, now make me a couple extended ones
[00:14:07] <tjb1> i just made 6
[00:14:14] <tjb1> not making any more lol
[00:14:18] <r00t4rd3d> all i need is 2
[00:14:47] <tjb1> good luck ;)
[00:14:53] * JT-Shop puts on the chef oh durr hat
[00:14:56] <r00t4rd3d> ill just buy them
[00:15:08] <tjb1> i only saved about $60
[00:15:14] <tjb1> I also didnt buy the aluminum
[00:15:30] <r00t4rd3d> thieve
[00:15:47] <tjb1> I paid $1300 for a class that meets 3 times for an hour in 16 weeks
[00:15:51] <tjb1> Your calling me the theif?
[00:16:00] <r00t4rd3d> pirate
[00:16:09] <tjb1> shhh
[00:16:31] <tjb1> 8mm dowel pin fits nicely in an O reamed hole if you are going to make them
[00:17:08] <r00t4rd3d> im not making any
[00:17:16] <tjb1> These JT-Shop
http://www.cncrouterparts.com/images/Extended%20Linear%20Carriage%20ABEC%207.jpg?osCsid=ff58d3a0bc6f314063914743cd21729c
[00:17:29] <tjb1> why not?
[00:17:47] <Tom_itx> that would be sorta sloppy
[00:17:54] <r00t4rd3d> less of a headache to just buy them
[00:18:00] <tjb1> Its not a press fit Tom
[00:18:06] <tjb1> Its meant to move
[00:18:26] <Tom_itx> .001 slop before you acount for the oversize .0002 on a standard reamer
[00:19:25] <tjb1> Its the way it is supposed to be Tom ;)
[00:22:13] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: They are actually nicely priced if you ever make one
[00:23:06] <Tom_itx> what is it?
[00:23:49] <tjb1> http://www.cncrouterparts.com/images/Extended%20Linear%20Carriage%20ABEC%207.jpg?osCsid=ff58d3a0bc6f314063914743cd21729c
[00:24:11] <Tom_itx> and i'll repeat too...
[00:24:13] <Tom_itx> what is it?
[00:24:44] <tjb1> linear carriage
[00:25:09] <Tom_itx> what's it going on?
[00:25:30] <tjb1> my plasma table
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[00:41:54] <JT-Shop> be making smoke and dust soon
[00:43:00] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: got the X axis down to 0.002 following error at 60 IPM with P alone
[00:44:15] <JT-Shop> now I need to dig up my notes on I and D and all the FF's
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[00:46:00] <Tom_itx> lookin good
[00:47:04] <JT-Shop> getting there, I'm stoked that I finally pulled the plug on the Anilam
[00:47:18] <Tom_itx> i would be too
[00:47:46] <JT-Shop> oh I guess I should follow this
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/tuning/servo.html
[00:48:40] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Might be having computer controlled motion next weekend
[00:48:50] <tjb1> Im confused as to how to mount my power supply though
[00:48:51] <JT-Shop> nice
[00:49:18] <tjb1> The mounting holes are in the side and I cant double side tape it to the bottom because I wouldnt have enough room to turn the screws for the wiring
[00:49:56] <JT-Shop> the first time I ran the plasma
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e70jdiDm7yc&list=UUt3eCzdbsQeuCifjsTyvvTg&index=11&feature=plcp
[00:50:25] <JT-Shop> a better one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o84BzF90JM&list=UUt3eCzdbsQeuCifjsTyvvTg&index=9&feature=plcp
[00:50:40] <jp__> JT-Shop: when i did my BP clone i was amazed how little P I & D terms i needed
[00:50:55] <JT-Shop> my P is 700
[00:51:14] <JT-Shop> I think it depends on the units etc
[00:51:45] <JT-Shop> jp__: what are you printing next?
[00:52:11] <jp__> Parts for Version 2 machine that i plan to kit and sell
[00:52:23] <JT-Shop> cool, take some video
[00:52:44] <jp__> I did of the first nothing much just a quick one
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[00:53:14] <jp__> Spent a bit of money on the extruder but well worth it
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[00:54:30] * JT-Shop smells jambalaya
[00:54:44] <JT-Shop> and heads inside
[00:54:53] <JT-Shop> say goodnight Gracie
[00:55:32] <tjb1> Thats a plamsa JT?
[00:55:34] <tjb1> JT-Shop:
[00:56:42] <tjb1> Oh, the second one looks better
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[04:52:55] <JessicaRN> Hola folks. has anyone connected EMC to an industrial servodriver from yaskawa? I have a set of Yaskawa SGDB drivers connected to working motors and I'd love to use these with something other than the propritary controler that came with them.
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[08:10:25] <theos> c
[08:13:19] <archivist> cn
[08:18:28] <theos> cny
[08:22:50] <archivist> phail, I was staying on topic
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[08:30:03] <v0idexp> finally managed to find a minute and create a bug report on that regression of PNCconf in last (2.6.0~pre) LinuxCNC
[08:30:04] <v0idexp> https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&aid=3566952&group_id=6744&atid=106744
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[14:26:38] <IchGuckLive> Hi All B)
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[14:30:59] <pcw_home> IchGuckLive if you look at the IRC logs I listed the 7I76 spindle/VFD connections -- no extra hardware needed
[14:31:23] <IchGuckLive> ok
[14:31:59] <pcw_home> you just need to reprogram the VFD for DIR/ENA mode
[14:32:16] <IchGuckLive> i will read
[14:38:37] <IchGuckLive> pcw_home: thats great
[14:41:25] <IchGuckLive> thanks by i try it in the net 30min
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[16:07:06] <mrsun> http://youtu.be/uYHjINyn4eg?t=2m30s is there a reason for that jumping around? ... thinking heat buildup or something
[16:07:13] <mrsun> or is the toolpaths just very unoptimized? :P
[16:10:21] <tjb1> I would say unoptimized
[16:10:44] <tjb1> It doesnt even do the holes in a certain order
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[16:12:27] <Connor> Okay, I need to drill 4 holes in the end of a cylinder. (only 3" tall). They equally spaced and should be on a 3.5" diameter. I'm thinking of clamping the cylinder to the table directly with a clamp through the middle. whats the best way to indicate the very center of it ?
[16:12:42] <tjb1> Using a caliper to mark bluing…moron
[16:13:18] <tjb1> Are you putting the cylinder on its side?
[16:13:24] <Connor> No.
[16:13:35] <Connor> not cross drilling.
[16:13:44] <Connor> drilling the END of it.
[16:14:02] <Connor> I'll have to use a edge finder..
[16:14:29] <Connor> tjb1: And for the record, I don't appreciate being called a moron. That's not very nice.
[16:15:15] <Connor> I'm not a machinist by trade.. so, this is a learning process.. and I can't really afford to mess up on this part.
[16:16:01] <tjb1> So you are KEF791
[16:16:23] <mrsun> who is kef791? :)
[16:16:31] <tjb1> Apparently Connor
[16:16:43] <mrsun> how do you figure? :)
[16:17:02] <tjb1> I was referring to the guy in the video using his caliper to mark the plates and Connor got upset about it referring that I was talking about him
[16:17:42] <Connor> tjb1: Were you not talking to me ?
[16:17:57] * mrsun got the vfd up and running again today atleast, this time built into a box =)
[16:17:59] <tjb1> No Connor, unless you are KEF791 on youtube
[16:17:59] <Connor> If not. I apologize.
[16:18:09] <mrsun> im sure ive done everything wrong with the grounding etc but hey .. it works :P
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[16:19:05] <mrsun> now i just need to solder some cabled to my vfd controller board and the mill is up and operational again ... hopefully :P
[16:19:13] <mrsun> atleast until rev B of the controller card is made
[16:19:37] <tjb1> I just need time
[16:19:38] <tjb1> haha
[16:20:03] <mrsun> huh ? :)
[16:20:20] <tjb1> I need to get home from school
[16:29:56] <archivist> Connor, if you can clamp leaving the inner clear then see
http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/component/kunena/?func=view&catid=40&id=18775
[16:31:31] <Connor> archivist That's nice, requires a probe. :)
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[16:32:09] <archivist> Connor, also you can mount a dial indicator in the spindle and indicate the hole and find centre that way see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU1ewk36zAw
[16:33:13] <archivist> I use the indicator method
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[16:33:32] <mrsun> hmm, been watching a movie on youtube over and over, quite amazing cnc mill .. ,homemade every time he does a center finding the numbers match up exactly each time ... talk about repeatability
[16:40:21] <Connor> I wonder if a touch plate style probe would work. It is alum so, it is conductive..
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[16:55:56] <jdh> if you know the diameter of your probe.
[16:56:06] <jdh> why are you drilling a cylinder?
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[16:58:46] <IchGuckLive> Hi all
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[17:02:02] <DJ9DJ> hi
[17:02:14] <IchGuckLive> B9)
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[17:04:25] <hardik> anyone here make their own spindle with a RC brushless motor?
[17:05:17] <IchGuckLive> hardik: then you can use a PROXXON as well
[17:05:29] <hardik> whats a PROXXON?
[17:05:41] <IchGuckLive> at the spindel prices from Huanyung its not worth to do it yourself
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[17:06:15] <IchGuckLive> what cutter are you expecting to drive
[17:06:22] <hardik> how much do spindles from huanyung cost?
[17:06:32] <hardik> i'm just cutting sheets of fiberglass
[17:06:43] <hardik> using endmills no bigger than 1/8"
[17:06:59] <hardik> most of my cutting would be with 1/16 or smaller
[17:07:02] <IchGuckLive> then the Proxxon is best for you
[17:07:09] <archivist> hardik, I have seen a couple of homebrew spindles done like that
[17:07:22] <IchGuckLive> hardik:
http://www.proxxon.com/eng/html/28481.php
[17:07:23] <hardik> proxxon looks like a dremel
[17:07:32] * hardik isnt a fan of dremels on cnc machines
[17:07:40] <IchGuckLive> this is a industriell product no sdremel
[17:07:41] <archivist> proxxon is yet another dremmel you may want better
[17:08:09] <archivist> http://www.dieselrc.com/projects/cncspindle/
[17:08:28] <IchGuckLive> in our factory every Toolmaker has one in its case
[17:09:16] <archivist> another example
http://www.raynerd.co.uk/?p=1562
[17:09:56] <hardik> archivist, i'm making basically the same thing as raynerd
[17:10:24] <archivist> he has been in here, not seen him for a while though
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[17:10:39] <hardik> if you see him again, let me know
[17:10:45] <hardik> i wanted to ask him a few questions
[17:10:50] <IchGuckLive> hardik: for pcb only its good enoph to have a proxxon on it
[17:11:12] <hardik> IchGuckLive: i'm not doing PCB's
[17:11:21] <hardik> i'm actually cutting through sheets of fiberglass
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[17:11:29] <hardik> and maybe some carbon fiber
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[17:12:45] <IchGuckLive> ok
[17:13:16] <archivist> hardik, ask the question anyway someone may know
[17:13:17] <IchGuckLive> the outrunner motors are not for permanent use as they need lots of cooling
[17:13:52] <hardik> i wanted to know what bearings and motor hes using
[17:14:01] <hardik> more importantly the motor
[17:14:20] <hardik> i've found one that looks very similar to what he used but not sure if its the same thing
[17:14:43] <IchGuckLive> http://www.ebay.de/sch/sis.html?_nkw=C5055%20KV700%20brushless%20motor%20Sky%20wing%20100A%20ESC%20BEC%202012%20&_itemId=170834566263
[17:14:51] <hardik> http://www.headsuprc.com/servlet/the-2348/Firepower-46-Sport-%285045-dsh-07%29/Detail
[17:15:01] <IchGuckLive> hardik: this are the bundels of motor and driver
[17:15:42] <hardik> IchGuckLive: the difficult part is finding a motor with an 8mm shaft
[17:15:55] <hardik> the ER11 collet i have has a 8mm straight shank
[17:16:08] <IchGuckLive> C4240-kv1020
[17:16:20] <hardik> the one in the link i posted has an 8mm shaft
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[17:19:54] <hardik> the KV is also important
[17:20:15] <hardik> too low and it will be hard to find a powersupply with enough current and voltage to run the motor
[17:20:24] <hardik> too high and it wont have enough torque
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[17:21:22] <IchGuckLive> http://www.flying-hobby.com/shop/scorpion-brushless-motor-hk5035500kv-8mm-shaft-p-8033.html
[17:22:01] <IchGuckLive> hardik: if you look at rays youtube channel he hot the hunayang running and replaced his Brushless
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[17:22:21] <hardik> scorpion motors are good but very pricey
[17:23:06] <IchGuckLive> as isaid befor the real milling spindel is less
[17:23:29] <IchGuckLive> hardik: witch country are ypou in
[17:24:12] <hardik> IchGuckLive: US
[17:24:35] <hardik> IchGuckLive: how much do the hunayang spindles cost?
[17:25:03] <ktchk> hardik: Hi look at
http://www.ray68.com/ water cooled spindle from china 0.8 kw with vfd is us250
[17:25:06] <IchGuckLive> let me find a USA seller
[17:25:41] <IchGuckLive> Zhen is always the best
[17:26:17] <hardik> i'm building a very small machine
[17:26:29] <hardik> 12x12x2" cutting area
[17:26:42] <IchGuckLive> http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_sacat=0&_nkw=water+cool+spindle&_nkwusc=water+cool+pindle&_rdc=1
[17:26:57] <IchGuckLive> 257USD for a 2.2KW
[17:27:19] <IchGuckLive> and its all Linuxcnc compatible as PCW interfaced
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[17:28:03] <hardik> hmm
[17:28:19] <hardik> might upgrade to that if this doesnt work out
[17:28:30] <hardik> the total cost on this is less than $80SUD
[17:28:42] <IchGuckLive> its the berst and esyest way to do it
[17:28:59] <IchGuckLive> on brushless
[17:29:09] <hardik> ER11 was $30, motor is $40, speedo control i already have from an airplane
[17:29:23] <IchGuckLive> go fo it
[17:29:33] <IchGuckLive> dont forget the cooling
[17:29:38] <hardik> yeah
[17:29:47] <IchGuckLive> watercool PC cooler is best
[17:30:02] <archivist> if it gets too hot add cooling :)
[17:30:39] <ktchk> what about the power supply?
[17:30:42] <IchGuckLive> the motors are not lasting a long time at force they might work less then 200h
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[17:31:17] <hardik> 200h right now is more than enough
[17:31:32] <IchGuckLive> go for it
[17:31:35] <hardik> i just need it to work long enough to cut a few pieces of fiberglass
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[17:37:29] <Connor> jdh: Sorry. It's for the Treadmill motor mount
[17:38:07] <Connor> Need to be very accurate. Very little room for mistake.. #8 screws in .220" wall.
[17:38:32] <Connor> In fact. I have a small scrape I might test on...
[17:41:28] <hardik> ktchk: i need to get a 50A powersupply
[17:42:00] <hardik> for now my 30A supply will be enough
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[18:01:24] <IchGuckLive> im off BYe
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[18:07:29] <c60> Hello, How does one link axis if using 2 steppers for the Y-axis with linuxcnc?
[18:11:29] <archivist> see
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/gantrykins.9.html for a solution/method
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[18:16:18] <c60> Perhaps I should say I'm new to this linuxcnc thing.
[18:17:44] <archivist> I cannot remember if there is a standard setup in stepconf for a gantry type, have a look
[18:19:07] <c60> yeah I saw one, but it didn't seem to work, I've got it working now just by setting the second Y to receive the same step/dir pulses in the setup, but the joint thing seems like the better way to do it.
[18:19:54] <c60> Thanks, I'll check into this after I get me some lunch, But at least I got the motors turning and I'm now free of the proprietary world of controller software's :)
[18:20:04] <skunkworks> heh
[18:20:23] <skunkworks> I think there is some info on the wiki on how someone did it without gantry kins
[18:20:29] <skunkworks> let me look
[18:21:34] <skunkworks> c60, more info..
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?GantryPlasmaMachine
[18:22:59] <skunkworks> probably as clear as mud
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[18:45:18] <ktchk> bye
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[19:20:33] <skunkworks> KimK, How is it going?
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[19:47:21] <Loetmichel> re @ home
[19:48:12] <skunkworks> linuxcnc down?
[19:49:59] <archivist> hmm loading......does not look healthy at the moment here
[19:50:36] <skunkworks> so it isn't just me ;)
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[19:51:55] <micges> dead here too
[19:52:14] <skunkworks> I was just on it earlier.
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[19:57:16] <PCW> its been flaky for the last several days
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[20:55:46] <r00t4rd3d> i think we should pulverize libya.
[20:55:50] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[21:33:52] <JT-Shop> hmm power cube showed up
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[22:04:07] <r00t4rd3d> is that a video game console?
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[23:59:14] <JT-Shop-2> I have a slight overshoot at the start of the move and an undershoot at the end of the move. What should I adjust?
[23:59:27] <JT-Shop-2> BP velocity drive for the axis
