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[00:00:48] <Nick001-Shop> will do - thats what I'm looking at and questioned the 2.4 vs the 2.5.0 that I have. Will have to continue tomorrow as dinner bell went off. -)
[00:01:09] <JT-Shop> jp_: it has to reload, you just changed the coordinates
[00:01:50] <JT-Shop> 2.5 buildbot to 2.5 normal installed should be painless iirc
[00:01:58] <JT-Shop> dinner time here too
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[00:04:37] <Nick001-Shop> Be back later from home
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[00:47:00] <r00t4rd3d> anyone play Kerbal Space Program ?
[00:50:23] <r00t4rd3d> ReadError, G28 X0
[00:50:39] <r00t4rd3d> you know them commands?
[00:50:46] <ReadError> nosir
[00:50:57] <ReadError> is there a command to override speed?
[00:51:05] <ReadError> like visualmill hard codes the speed
[00:51:09] <r00t4rd3d> not that i know of
[00:51:23] <ReadError> kinda lame because i dont want to go back and change everything
[00:51:36] <Tom_itx> change it on the axis pannel
[00:52:21] <r00t4rd3d> ReadError, in the MRI tab, if you type in G28 X0 , it will send the x axis to where you zeroed it
[00:52:43] <r00t4rd3d> G28 Y0
[00:52:46] <r00t4rd3d> G28 Z0
[00:53:37] <ReadError> oh word
[00:53:46] <ReadError> make any cool wooden guns lately ?
[00:53:51] <r00t4rd3d> no
[00:54:12] <ReadError> pictures
[00:54:13] <ReadError> ?
[00:54:31] <L84Supper> guns made of wood or guns that fire wood?
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[00:55:02] <r00t4rd3d> i cut a model of a gun out in wood and have no heard the end of it
[00:55:10] <r00t4rd3d> s/no/not
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[00:56:02] <r00t4rd3d> i gave it to my hunting nut friend and he hung it on his wall
[00:57:11] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/U6jsG.jpg
[00:57:14] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[00:57:22] <jp_> JT-Shop, The coords dont change the file is the same all that changes is where the tool is XYZ
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[00:58:06] <r00t4rd3d> i searched google images for r00t4rd3d + cnc + gun , seems toms log gets everything and indexed regularly by googles robot
[00:59:09] <r00t4rd3d> https://www.google.com/search?num=10&hl=en&safe=off&authuser=0&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=721&q=r00t4rd3d+cnc+gun&oq=r00t4rd3d+cnc+gun&gs_l=img.3...1786.4759.0.4962.17.5.0.12.0.0.146.493.3j2.5.0...0.0...1ac.1.BNbj0dm8n68#hl=en&safe=off&authuser=0&site=imghp&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=r00t4rd3d+cnc+&oq=r00t4rd3d+cnc+&gs_l=img.3...110224.110224.0.110427.1.1.0.0.0.0.78.78.1.1.0...0.0...1c.1.fQrT_JabuOU&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_q
[00:59:09] <r00t4rd3d> f.&fp=c432b09956d4cb0f&biw=1600&bih=721
[00:59:14] <r00t4rd3d> aww
[00:59:20] <L84Supper> I'd hate to be staring down the wrong side of that :)
[00:59:30] <r00t4rd3d> you might get a splinter
[01:00:16] <ReadError> im surprised that nobody here has cut CF ;/
[01:01:32] <Tom_itx> we machine farm tractors, not race buggies
[01:02:18] <L84Supper> http://www.3dprintingindustry.com/2012/09/17/eventorbot-on-kickstarter/ I pointed out this clean design for a FFF printer in reprap and they don't seem to get it
[01:02:29] <ReadError> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/25091878/Photo%20Sep%2021%2C%2011%2022%2036%20AM.jpg
[01:02:34] <ReadError> thats my latest cnc project
[01:02:47] <ReadError> i managed to bring the arms down from 13.24g to 8.45
[01:02:50] <ReadError> using the holes
[01:04:02] <ReadError> 3-in-1 oil made magical differences in cutting those holes
[01:04:08] <ReadError> before i was melting it almost
[01:04:14] <ReadError> put some oil on it
[01:04:17] <ReadError> like butter
[01:04:18] <L84Supper> ReadError, are you trying to increase flight duration?
[01:04:40] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[01:04:42] <ReadError> L84Supper, bring the weight down
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[01:07:33] <ReadError> i finally found a good source of color g10
[01:07:36] <ReadError> which makes me happy ;)
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[02:27:56] <Tom_itx> how to draw a cone in solidworks?
[02:37:41] <L84Supper> Tom_itx, a few different ways, draw the profile of half the cone as a section then rotate it around the axis
[02:39:32] <L84Supper> http://www.mcadcentral.com/solidworks/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2046&PN=5 here's an example
[02:46:22] <L84Supper> cradek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WCrqqoZkPg&feature=channel_page# I'm looking at build vs buy on a 5 axis machine like this
[02:47:21] <L84Supper> how much time will it take on the LinuxCNC side to get it setup?
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[02:49:55] <L84Supper> http://www.mdaprecision.com/index.php/milling-machines/5-axis-cnc-system/tn5-5-axis-cnc-mill.html is $25-30K based on options and it runs Mach
[02:52:04] <L84Supper> http://www.minitech.com/mill.php?step=Step+1 is around the same or more for 5 axis
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[03:04:01] <tjb1> Table is now green ;)
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[03:08:09] <ReadError> http://i.imgur.com/TIWK9.jpg
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[03:24:14] <r00t4rd3d> lol
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[03:39:51] <FinboySlick> r00t4rd3d: That can't be the real story, is it?
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[04:05:50] <L84Supper> http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-AKIRA-SEIKI-PERFORMA-V2-CNC-VERTICAL-MACHINING-CENTER-w-MITSUBISHI-CONTROL-/160887088883?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item25759e26f3 with a nice tool changer
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[04:13:40] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: Damn, that's less than I paid for my misadjusted chinese crap.
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[04:16:01] <L84Supper> FinboySlick, almost 3 days left to go, the price could double
[04:16:25] <FinboySlick> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bolton-Tools-3-AXIS-Mini-CNC-Milling-Machine-Mill-Drill-M4A1-5-HP-/380466742482?_trksid=p4340.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555001%26algo%3DPW.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D7%26meid%3D2239800605126546445%26pid%3D100010%26prg%3D1004%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D160887088883%26 is exactly the same frame as mine though.
[04:19:02] * FinboySlick should stop complainin' and start alinin'
[04:20:28] <L84Supper> FinboySlick, is there enough clearance to add a 4th or 5th axis rotary table?
[04:20:55] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: I have a 4th already, I'm sure there's space for a trunnion table.
[04:21:13] <FinboySlick> Depends on how big a part you want to work with.
[04:21:44] <pcw_home> Is this a 5 axis machine?
[04:21:46] <pcw_home> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Laschet-Innovat-D-70-CNC-cabinet-milling-machine-/290778177721?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b3bae0b9
[04:21:46] <L84Supper> FinboySlick, it's 90% for aluminum
[04:23:00] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: Shouldn't be a problem. Travel isn't extraordinary, shy of 6" on the y, about 10" on x and the same on z.
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[04:23:57] <FinboySlick> L84Supper: If it's going to have the trunion permanently on, I guess one could relatively easily make up for the lost travel by adding a spacer between the base and the column.
[04:24:56] <L84Supper> pcw_home, at least 4 if i count correctly
[04:25:32] <FinboySlick> A-axis: Swivel axis for tooling spindle horizontal (90 degree) B-axis: Swivel axis for tooling spindle vertical (180 degree)
[04:25:38] <FinboySlick> I'd say 5
[04:26:09] <FinboySlick> Oh, they might not be controlled axis... Duh.
[04:26:50] <r00t4rd3d> DOAH!
[04:27:15] <FinboySlick> r00t4rd3d: Reminds me of 'Drawn Together'.
[04:28:26] <FinboySlick> r00t4rd3d:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2t0yRG1pjQ
[04:38:35] <archivist> pcw_home, 7 axis
http://www.wotol.com/1-others-innovat-d-70-7/second-hand-machinery/prod_id/52707
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[04:40:41] <archivist> I think its one of the machines that spins the bar and the tool and then makes square/hexagon in one pass, lathe-ish with live geared tooling
[04:41:55] <pcw_home> Ah very specialized... (and small work area)
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[04:47:00] <archivist> cam make hydraulic/pneumatic fittings
[04:47:03] <archivist> can
[04:50:47] <L33TG33KG34R> My table turned out AWESOME!
[04:51:29] <archivist> pcw_home, they need a lot of power to the tooling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Kzk3_uzRAg
[04:51:56] <toastydeath> usually 5 hp heads
[04:52:26] <toastydeath> inside the turret
[04:52:32] <toastydeath> direct drive
[04:53:02] <archivist> I have seen them at shows, they make a "bit" of noise
[04:53:55] <toastydeath> skreeeee
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[04:54:23] <pcw_home> Yow!
[04:54:48] <toastydeath> they're louder than most people expect because direct drive machines tend to want to run really goddamn fast
[04:55:08] <toastydeath> inserted tooling and CAM tool path optimization
[04:55:46] <pcw_home> I notice the spindle speeds were 3000 to 6000 RPM
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[04:56:25] <archivist> they are taking large cuts too
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[04:57:13] <pcw_home> maybe thats why its built with resin/concrete ((damping)
[04:57:45] <toastydeath> nah, 3k to 6k isn't that fast all things considered
[04:57:54] <toastydeath> resin is the new hotness because it's cheap to produce
[04:58:46] <toastydeath> there's too many variables in resin casting to say how any one machine to the next is going to perform with damping
[04:59:32] <toastydeath> even though everyone and their mother has an internet boner for it
[05:02:28] <pcw_home> Doesn't sound too useful as a general tool however (unless you are making couplings)
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[05:03:39] <pcw_home> Thanks for finding that archivist
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[05:04:15] <archivist> another tool type for linuxcnc one day :)
[05:05:05] <toastydeath> no way, that's super useful as a general tool
[05:05:35] <toastydeath> but it's a general tool in the equipped machine shop sense, not the hobby sense
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[05:05:55] <toastydeath> if you have one lathe, the biggest most general machine is best
[05:06:32] <toastydeath> but when you have 5-6 lathes, that big lathe falls to the wayside for edge cases because a smaller 7 axis machine with a .2m/.1m travel covers a ton of jobs
[05:06:46] <archivist> I would say they are for production qty not one off
[05:06:55] <toastydeath> oh, agree
[05:07:46] <toastydeath> programming and proving multiaxis machines takes a long time and usually require 5-10 parts to break even
[05:08:05] <toastydeath> unless it's a weird job like an engine block or something horrifying
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[05:12:45] <archivist> hmm, I could make hex bolts for the model engineering market on my sliding head if I gear the live tooling it has
[05:14:14] <toastydeath> hex rotary broaches are pretty easy to make too
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[08:15:40] <MattyMatt> does anyone know a submini opto slot, preferably on mouser? these full sized ones are a bit of a squeeze in this mini spindle I'm making
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[08:16:20] <MattyMatt> I'd use one out of a ball mouse but they demand a specific slot spacing to give quadrature
[08:17:07] <MattyMatt> and none of the wheels are big enough to go round an 8mm shaft
[08:17:39] <MattyMatt> and there's no way I can make slots as fine as those
[08:18:52] * MattyMatt wishes he still had old atari trackball
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[10:21:13] <awallin> did anyone use clang on ubuntu? to detect more warnings/errors in c++ code compared to what gcc detects?
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[12:26:17] <jthornton> I think the buildbot does or seb does
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[12:45:40] <cncbasher> anyone familar with nml errors ?
http://pastebin.com/EbiHc2Bs
[12:47:50] <alex_joni> cncbasher: yup
[12:47:56] <alex_joni> your nml buffer is too small
[12:48:12] <alex_joni> most likely you're using an old emc.nml file with a newer emc2/linuxcnc
[12:48:22] <cncbasher> yes your right
[12:48:24] <alex_joni> probably upgraded recently?
[12:48:29] <cncbasher> it's an old file
[12:48:42] <alex_joni> try just renaming the emc.nml file to something else, and don't supply one
[12:48:58] <alex_joni> newer linuxcnc versions use an implicit one anyways (iirc)
[12:50:08] <alex_joni> here's a recent one:
http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=blob;f=configs/common/emc.nml;h=3b3d72b0f9087cb044be3c6e9bf6e20f47721328;hb=da32a1cab7f1efc5493cabc73191fbab45bb3220
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[12:50:24] <alex_joni> the only change I remember is that emcStatus has size 16384
[12:50:40] <alex_joni> it was 10208 or so in the older days
[12:51:19] <cncbasher> ok back in a min Alex
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[12:55:03] <cncbasher> still the same error
[12:56:05] <micges> try to remove emc.nml from ini file
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[13:04:16] <cncbasher_> try'd removing the nml still the same errors
[13:05:53] <JT-Shop> I have two machines one with a 5i20 + 7i33 and one with a 5i25 + 7i77. The MPG's are connected the same way but the 5i25 machine each click the axis moves faster than a G0 move, the 5i20 machine does not do this
[13:06:31] <JT-Shop> the hal is the same between both machines... I must be missing something
[13:11:10] <JT-Shop> cncbasher:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?UPDATING#emc_nml_changes
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[13:11:37] <JT-Shop> looks to be the same as your error libnml/buffer/physmem.cc 143: PHYSMEM_HANDLE: Can't write 11612 bytes at offset 60 from buffer of size 10208.
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[13:12:14] <micges> JT-Shop: linuxcnc versions are also the same?
[13:13:09] <JT-Shop> hmm, no the CHNC with the 5i20 is running a pre release version of 2.5 still
[13:14:26] <micges> JT-Shop: paste whole config somewhere, I'll take a look
[13:14:34] <micges> configs*
[13:14:49] <JT-Shop> ok
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[13:19:35] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/files/hardinge.tar.gz
[13:19:57] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/files/BP-5i25.tar.gz
[13:19:57] <cncbasher> ok fixed the nml error now this one
http://pastebin.com/1aPrMWeL
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[13:21:33] <JT-Shop> copy and paste permission problem? /home/david/linuxcnc/configs/zenbot-emcrepstrap/repstrap-extruder.hal:3: execv(/home/david/linuxcnc/configs/zenbot-emcrepstrap/repstrap-extruder.py): Permission denied
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[13:22:27] <cncbasher> ok i'll check then buy some new glasses
[13:22:35] <JT-Shop> lol
[13:23:04] <cncbasher> well it cant be my eyes their been fine for 50+ years
[13:23:04] <JT-Shop> I broke my new glasses and have fallen back on one of the dozen laying about
[13:23:18] <JT-Shop> that's what I thought too
[13:23:59] <cncbasher> are the cant find -sec errors related to anything else ?
[13:24:28] <JT-Shop> dunno, I always go for what I understand first and that seems to work
[13:24:42] <JT-Shop> micges: tar.gz ok?
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[13:26:01] <JT-Shop> up to 49F now, going to be a nice ride in the woods this morning
[13:26:40] <JT-Shop> brb
[13:26:58] <cncbasher> arh set file as execuite as program did it
[13:27:07] <cncbasher> than ks JT
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[13:35:16] <JT-Shop> your welcome
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[13:47:45] <micges> JT-Shop: nothing strange in configs
[13:48:20] <JT-Shop> thanks for looking
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[13:48:56] <micges> describe what's happening on 5i25
[13:50:14] <JT-Shop> if I set the jog increment to 0.001 and move the mpg one click it thumps, if I use 0.1 it moves faster than a rapid move
[13:50:53] <JT-Shop> I can do g0x0.001 or 0.1 and the move is fast and smooth
[13:51:32] * JT-Shop will be back in a couple of hours
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[13:56:59] <JT-Shop> if you think of anything I'll read back
[13:57:16] <toudi_> ok
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[14:12:26] <pcw_home> JT-Shop: if you still have 5V problems that can cause analog output issues
[14:12:28] <pcw_home> which might cause a thump (though these would likely cause a following error as well)
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[14:37:33] <pcw_home> An easy way to check if the jog problem is with LinuxCNC or some PS /other obscure 5I25 issue
[14:37:35] <pcw_home> would be to unlink the axis.N.jog-counts pin from the encoder and just setp axis.N.jog-counts to 0,4,8 etc
[14:37:36] <pcw_home> (for a single MPG tic equivalents)
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[14:47:54] <jp_> just found ou my parents shop burnt to the ground last night
[14:48:28] <Loetmichel> jp_: condolences: how did THAT happen?
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[14:52:49] <jp_> dont know yet
[14:55:42] <jp_> let this be a friendly reminder. You never know what ma come your way
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[16:14:06] <rev3> hey guys I've got a quick question on the g10 command in axis, if i run a g10 l20 it seems that the coordinate marker moves in space, but the drawn in gcode does not move, unless I reset axis.. so is there a command (hal or otherwise) to refresh the display?
[16:17:49] <micges> click a reload button on Axis
[16:18:19] <rev3> yep that does it, now is there a halui for doing that?
[16:18:42] <micges> let me see
[16:19:31] <micges> I think not
[16:19:40] <micges> but you can use axis-remote program
[16:20:14] <micges> axis-remote --reload
[16:21:25] <rev3> hang on I'm catching up :) looking for some documentation on that...
[16:22:45] <rev3> ok I found it, so that would need to go into an M file or maybe python?
[16:22:57] <micges> you can put this in 101.sh file
[16:23:26] <micges> add [HALUI] MDI_COMMAND = m101 to ini file
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[16:23:53] <micges> and you will have halui.mdi-command-00 pin that will reload preview
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[16:26:35] <rev3> giving it a whirl, thanks!
[16:30:49] <rev3> seems to work, but now there is another strange thing going on... what I have is a one button touch off for xyza, there is a slight delay while it's reloading, but when its done the displayed numbers don't change, unless I do a g55 and then back to g54 in mdi
[16:31:35] <rev3> then z (or what ever) shows zero, even though the displayed cut path does indeed change :)
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[16:34:03] <rev3> same issue exists even if I hit the reload button in axis.
[16:35:20] <rev3> I guess I could make the button call several commands, the first the G10 and the axis-reload, then a g55, then back to g54... something like:
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[16:36:55] <rev3> G55 G10 L20 P3 v0y0z0w0a0x0 M155 o<fix_zero_to_g54>call, where the M155 is the 'axis-remote --reload' and the o call is the G55, G54...
[16:37:20] <rev3> or rather in this case, G54, and back to G55
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[17:02:35] <IchGuckLive> Hi all from the Sunny germany
[17:02:44] <rev3> humm... ok I ended up with a o<zerog54>call o word, looks like this:
[17:02:45] <rev3> o<zerog54> sub
[17:02:46] <rev3> G54
[17:02:46] <rev3> G10 L20 P1 x0y0z0a0
[17:02:46] <rev3> (debug, reloading gcode...)
[17:02:46] <rev3> M155
[17:02:47] <rev3> (debug, done!)
[17:02:49] <rev3> G55
[17:02:51] <rev3> (debug, return to co.)
[17:02:53] <rev3> G54
[17:02:55] <rev3> o<zerog54> endsub
[17:02:57] <rev3> and emc returns:
[17:03:04] <rev3> reloading gcode...
[17:03:10] <rev3> and then give an error:
[17:03:38] <IchGuckLive> live from the Oktoberfest
[17:03:42] <IchGuckLive> http://www.muenchen-tv.de/livestream/muenchentv.html
[17:03:59] <IchGuckLive> rev3: please use a pasteservice
[17:04:51] <IchGuckLive> rev3: why dont you use a button and mdi command
[17:04:58] <IchGuckLive> via pyvcp
[17:05:06] <IchGuckLive> to do your move
[17:05:11] <rev3> I am, gladevcp
[17:05:20] <rev3> what is a paste service?
[17:05:54] <IchGuckLive> pastebin fpr example for your g-code example
[17:06:01] <rev3> can't do that (EMC_TASK_PLAN_OPEN) in manual mode
[17:07:30] <rev3> the button calls the mdi command to execute the oword call
[17:08:27] <IchGuckLive> you can direct access G0 G54 X0 Y0 Z0
[17:08:56] <IchGuckLive> http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gui/gladevcp.html
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[17:10:50] <rev3> trying out pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/WQ5VGy0f thanks, sorry about that
[17:13:06] <IchGuckLive> you only need in the O sub G0 G54 G90 X0 Y0 Z0
[17:13:30] <IchGuckLive> maybe G20/21 also
[17:13:38] <IchGuckLive> then it will move
[17:13:53] <rev3> IchGuckLive: I see you just joined us, I am working on a one button touch off for XYZA, but there are issues with the code preview, solved with axis-reload in an M file, then the displayed Z position for example does not update and causes travel errors, unless I bounce back and forth from G54 to G55 then back to G54, I put all of that in an o word call, but now I get that weired (EMC_TASK_PLAN_OPEN) error
[17:15:06] <IchGuckLive> version ?
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[17:16:01] <rev3> 2.5.1
[17:16:20] <IchGuckLive> on 10.04 or later
[17:16:28] <rev3> yeah
[17:16:56] <IchGuckLive> there are constent changes to the glade interpreter
[17:17:28] <IchGuckLive> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ if it is ok for you update to masterbranch
[17:19:14] <rev3> well I still get the error if I enter the o<zerog54>call into the MDI
[17:21:57] <rev3> That is a cool link!
[17:24:04] <IchGuckLive> first to my info WHY do you do THIS there is a Homing all button in AXIS
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[17:28:21] <rev3> Homing is different then touching off, I am trying to make it easier for the end user to simply put the tooling where they want to local zero to be in the workspace, and only require a single button push.
[17:29:16] <IchGuckLive> ah ok
[17:29:35] <IchGuckLive> so why dont you simply write the tooltable file
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[17:30:09] <IchGuckLive> or do you want to be the g54-58 to be the offset
[17:30:40] <IchGuckLive> only length ?
[17:30:50] <IchGuckLive> or also diameter messurmenth
[17:31:24] <IchGuckLive> in any way to get this regionised you need to relod the tooltable and the g-code
[17:32:00] <IchGuckLive> G43 Hxxx
[17:32:29] <IchGuckLive> gives you the length offset does not meter witch tool is loaded the ofset is calculated on the number
[17:32:48] <IchGuckLive> you can combinate Tool 1 to all other length offset
[17:34:05] <IchGuckLive> Example if you get 1mm in tooltabel length offset of tool 2 and you call T1 M6 ...G43 H2 it will stay 1mm above
[17:34:16] <Aero-Tec> there is a sample Gcode for testing axis
[17:34:28] <Aero-Tec> anyone got a quick link to it?
[17:34:36] <Aero-Tec> or know where to find it?
[17:34:57] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: movement test
[17:35:07] <IchGuckLive> or function test
[17:35:25] <Aero-Tec> for testing the settings
[17:35:41] <Aero-Tec> to make sure your not missing steps and such
[17:36:19] <Aero-Tec> you know, it goes back and forth a ton ot times and then you make sure it comes back to 0
[17:37:03] <IchGuckLive> yust wriht your own need
[17:38:01] <IchGuckLive> get a dial to -somewhat move in positiv as you like and move back to the dial
[17:38:13] <IchGuckLive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nn1bJ3YAQdI
[17:38:30] <Aero-Tec> the setup wizard has a test like that, but for some reason the setup wizard will not move any axis on my machine
[17:38:43] <IchGuckLive> bad
[17:38:51] <Aero-Tec> it used to
[17:38:56] <Aero-Tec> and emc does
[17:39:12] <IchGuckLive> the driver enable maybe
[17:39:23] <Aero-Tec> guess the backlash setting may of made the wiz not work
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[17:47:44] <IchGuckLive> rev3: still on
[17:49:34] <IchGuckLive> linuxcnc_2.6.0~pre0.3147.g26577cb_source Sun, 22 Jul 2012 gladvcp -allow while loop handling * Reflect whether the touch-off is CHANGLOG
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[17:50:27] <IchGuckLive> by im off
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[18:05:00] <JT-Shop> pcw_home: setp axis.0.jog-counts makes it jump just like using the MPG, I have a 5v power supply on the way to test with
[18:05:08] <JT-Shop> be back in a bit
[18:05:44] <JT-Shop> Aero-Tec: you find the test axis info yet?
[18:07:02] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/common/Stepper_Diagnostics.html#_testing
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[18:12:47] <skunkworks__> JT-Shop: what is the issue?
http://pastebin.com/bK9f9NST
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[18:17:06] <pcw_home> I guess you could HALScope commanded position (axis.N.motor-pos-cmd)
[18:17:07] <pcw_home> and see if it violates the accel limits
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[18:22:26] <pcw_home> (During a jog)
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[19:04:38] <JT-Shop> skunkworks__: I've tried vel mode on and off... my scale is 1 hmmm
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[19:23:30] <skunkworks__> JT-Shop: iirc my jog wheel is 400 cpr or 1600 ppr
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[19:27:54] <JT-Shop> mine is the same iirc
[19:28:21] <JT-Shop> I'll give that a try when I get done fabricating these posts
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[19:34:52] <r00t4rd3d> forum posts?
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[19:35:57] <JT-Shop> porch posts
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[19:41:33] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[20:00:22] <JT-Shop> skunkworks__: encoder scale does not change encoder count only endoder position
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[20:13:32] <JT-Shop> motor pos cmd has a steep ramp, encoder vel is real steep and jumps up and down
[20:14:09] <micges> screen shots please
[20:15:25] <JT-Shop> working on it
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[20:17:24] <JT-Shop> that's a 0.010" move with one click of the MPG
http://imagebin.org/229531
[20:22:13] <JT-Shop> a g0 x0.1" rapid move
http://imagebin.org/229532
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[20:27:21] <JT-Shop> with the MPG I get 4 moves per click it seems
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[20:34:56] <micges> JT-Shop: put also pid.output to scope
[20:35:18] <micges> and encoder counts
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[20:41:33] <JT-Shop> ok
[20:44:29] <micges> and check if there is position decrease when encoder velocity is going to minus on scope
[20:45:58] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/229536
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[20:48:30] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/229537
[20:50:03] <micges> what is this tick before move?
[20:50:12] <micges> on enoceder counts
[20:52:00] <JT-Shop> on the g0 move?
[20:52:38] <micges> no idea
[20:53:03] <micges> on second screen shot there is rapid change of counts before move
[20:53:29] <micges> yes g0
[20:53:50] <JT-Shop> it goes -1 then 0 then -19
[20:54:21] <micges> ah
[20:55:30] <JT-Shop> when I change the scale it looks normal
[20:55:51] <micges> ok
[20:56:10] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, still fighting MPG jog speed?
[20:56:14] <JT-Shop> another shot
http://imagebin.org/229539
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[20:58:04] <micges> did you tried what pcw_home wrote?
[20:58:41] <micges> unlink axis.x.counts and setp it directly to see if it's lcnc problem or else
[20:58:57] <JT-Shop> yes, it still sounds the same
[20:59:18] <JT-Shop> I wonder if I have the drives tuned too stiff or have my acceleration too high?
[21:00:31] <micges> if so it is config problem not encder
[21:01:06] <micges> how did you tuned servos?
[21:01:51] <micges> ignore above
[21:01:55] <JT-Shop> changing acceleration from 30 to 10 does slow it down, so it is following the acceleration
[21:03:19] <micges> so it doesn't cross ini file settings now?
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[21:04:00] <JT-Shop> yes it follows the ini setting, I just changed it to test
[21:07:32] <micges> good
[21:07:34] <micges> bbl
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[21:22:21] <Aero-Tec> JT-Shop: thanks for the link
[21:22:28] <Aero-Tec> just what I was looking for
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