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[00:03:19] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Haven't you seen it? It's the one with the pneumatic drawbar?
[00:03:38] <JT-Shop> ah yes I remember the drawbar now
[00:03:44] <andypugh> I have the Z moving now, so an update video is in order, I think.
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[00:07:12] <JT-Shop> yes
[00:09:17] <Tom_itx> G7 is diameter mode on a lathe not feedrate sine curve control
[00:09:24] <JT-Shop> yep
[00:09:45] <Tom_itx> cad packages handle it just fine though
[00:10:39] <JT-Shop> yep they know what to do
[00:10:54] <Tom_itx> mine will wrap a tool path but it doesn't do angular axis movement that i know of or at least i don't have any templates that ouput code for it
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[00:11:58] <Tom_itx> i may have a couple but i've never used them or know how they work
[00:12:35] <Tom_itx> since we didn't have any mills that did rotary movement
[00:12:46] <Tom_itx> at least not 'live'
[00:13:39] <Tom_itx> it would be kinda cool to see my sherline with a cradle and a rotary axis on it though :)
[00:14:41] <Tom_itx> i think feedrates on a rotary would act more like a lathe
[00:14:52] <JT-Shop> you could spend hours programming that :)
[00:15:06] <Tom_itx> as you approach the center it speeds up
[00:15:09] <toastyde1th> a lot of lathe rotary motion is programmed exactly like a milling machine
[00:15:36] <Tom_itx> i wish i'd have gotten into that but we never did
[00:16:00] <toastyde1th> you program an outer profile and the lathe automatically generates it by rotating that point set around 0,0
[00:16:15] <toastyde1th> it's very, very easy to program live tooling on most controls because of this
[00:17:37] <toastyde1th> this would make doing C-synchronized turning equally easy because all you're doing is programming the outer part profile and commanding a z depth
[00:17:41] <toastyde1th> machine does the rest
[00:17:51] <toastyde1th> or inner profile, for hexes and stuff
[00:23:16] <toastyde1th> sigh, i wish i had a beat up live tooling machine
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[00:24:52] <JT-Shop> I wish my spindle on the BP was not so noisy
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[00:25:28] <toastyde1th> air bearing conversion!
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[00:25:56] <JT-Shop> I need to remove the variable speed belt drive and put a timing belt in there
[00:27:30] <toastyde1th> there was a video of a homebuilt tesla turbine
[00:27:35] <toastyde1th> that was running at like 10k rpm
[00:27:46] <toastyde1th> THAT would be a cool direct drive spindle
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[00:29:28] <toastyde1th> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AsV9UUCJ5EI
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[00:40:59] <tjb1> PCW: What are your hours?
[00:41:17] <PCW> never again
[00:41:39] <tjb1> Damn...
[00:42:16] <PCW> Oh Mesas Hours, normally 7:30 AM to 4:30 PM PST
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[00:45:50] <tjb1> You need to be open 7:30 - 4:30 EST...
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[00:47:40] <PCW> I'm often here later but I'm not reliable with orders
[00:49:00] <tjb1> You guys need to get into the 21st century
[00:52:05] <PCW> Rather not
[00:52:12] <PCW> bbl
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[00:59:51] <tjb1> JT-Shop:
http://i.imgur.com/4jA3N.jpg?1 and
http://i.imgur.com/w0kPC.jpg?1
[01:00:15] <JT-Shop> how did you know I was back out in the shop?
[01:00:31] <tjb1> I watched you leave dinner...duh
[01:00:39] <JT-Shop> lol
[01:01:31] <tjb1> Thats after I cut 2.5" off Z
[01:01:56] <JT-Shop> can you get more acceleration out of the Z now?
[01:02:32] <tjb1> I guess…until it runs out of grease or gets colder I suppose
[01:03:08] <tjb1> I need to add a bolt to that plate still so the distance is smaller, also read that the prox sensors pick up steel at a longer distance than aluminum
[01:04:15] <JT-Shop> yea a little better to have a steel target
[01:05:25] <JT-Shop> one more slot to mill... damn noisy mill
[01:10:11] <tjb1> Im debating whether or not I can drill that hole on a drill press...
[01:10:34] <JT-Shop> what hole?
[01:10:58] <tjb1> The hole for the bolt
[01:11:22] <JT-Shop> ah
[01:12:32] <tjb1> Ive been too lazy/busy to bring it to school and do it
[01:12:44] <tjb1> Take me longer to sign out all the tools than it would to drill the damn hole
[01:13:58] <JT-Shop> I can drill a pretty accurate hole using a drill press and taking proper precautionary measures
[01:14:27] <toastyde1th> contrast that to my "fuck it we'll do it live" method
[01:14:28] <tjb1> Our is a tractor supply model…not very rigid
[01:15:14] <JT-Shop> don't have to be rigid
[01:16:15] <JT-Shop> center punch, spotting bit if you have one, pilot hole, real hole...
[01:16:54] <cradek> center punch and then file it flat
[01:17:51] <toastyde1th> sharpened spoon
[01:17:52] <cradek> and yep - pilot hole around the size of the web of the drill sized for the real hole, and that's it. don't step up 7 sizes of drill, you lose center a bit more each time.
[01:18:38] <cradek> some seem to think "I'll do this right and use every drill in my index, one step up at a time" - I don't know where people get that or why they think it works
[01:18:48] <toastyde1th> because science
[01:21:13] <Jymmm> 9mm
[01:21:16] <JT-Shop> yep, I do it the same way
[01:21:30] <Jymmm> or .33lr if thin gauge
[01:21:33] <Jymmm> .22lr
[01:23:05] <JT-Shop> I'm liking it
http://imagebin.org/238865
[01:23:35] <JT-Shop> no movement on the slats
[01:24:50] <JT-Shop> cradek: what does filing the center punch do?
[01:25:35] <cradek> it gives you just a dent, instead of a dent with random mountains around it to catch the drill and push it around
[01:25:57] <JT-Shop> ok, that makes sense
[01:26:06] <JT-Shop> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhuMLpdnOjY
[01:26:46] <cradek> heh I've never actually seen the guy!
[01:27:21] <cradek> some of his rhymes are really great
[01:27:30] <JT-Shop> yea I like them
[01:28:08] <cradek> birdies all try and hide ... coated with cyanide
[01:28:22] <JT-Shop> classic
[01:28:34] <JT-Shop> well I'm done out here in the shop for the day
[01:28:38] <JT-Shop> goodnight
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[01:41:22] <tjb1> Damn JT-Shop, you have like triple the supports I do
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[04:30:02] <r00t4rd3d> http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardEsplora
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[04:31:19] <r00t4rd3d> im gonna make a pendant out of one of thems
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[05:02:34] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/mG0PW.jpg
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[05:19:00] <tjb1> You better be careful r0t
[05:19:02] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
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[06:39:00] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[06:48:06] <abetusk> me gloating:
http://imgur.com/myfrO
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[06:55:24] <s1dev> anyone here play the violin, viola, or cello?
[06:55:35] <s1dev> wrong channel!
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[07:51:46] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[11:49:38] <jthornton> http://www.cnccookbook.com/MTLaserMetrology.htm
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[16:50:07] <gmouer> did you guys get that issue with the multi axis machine and smooth motion sorted out yesterday? that was some real interesting subject matter
[16:50:44] <archivist> I dont think he is sorted yet
[16:51:51] <gmouer> I picked up a trick watching using halscope to plot a velocity curve during actual cutting, slick idea
[16:53:39] <archivist> we used that when I had a problem screw cutting, made it easy to pinpoint the problem
[16:56:10] <gmouer> andypugh: my friend is going forward with his VMC retrofit with redcap motors. Right now he is sorting out the fanuc spindle motor and getting it to behave with his baldor flux-vector drive. Soon it will be on to taming the redcap motors.
[16:57:16] <andypugh> Sounds exciting :-)
[16:58:18] <archivist> andypugh, what is your ballscrew that you want rotating nut for?
[16:58:39] <archivist> speed or grunt
[16:58:49] <gmouer> the VMC is a Kryle, a beaufiful machine but no longer made, mid 90's vintage. Redcap motors on all axis and the toolchanger. Your BLDC component is making it all possible. Thanks much.
[16:59:45] <andypugh> The X axis on my Mill. And the reason I want to do it that way is for neatness of installation and so that the motor is fairly stationary (rather than waving about on the end of the bed with cables flapping in the breeze)
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[17:02:16] <gmouer> my friend has old bridgeport boss with a rotating nut on the X, my bridgeport has a conventional screw and the motor hung out the end of the X. That motor lines up nicely with the knees and sometimes more important body parts.
[17:02:30] <archivist> just I have a screw and nut needing a use, probably too fat though
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[17:29:12] <Connor> What's the best way to install a clean LinuxCNC ? Is there a iso with 2.5.1 on it ?
[17:29:30] <jdh> liveCD, update as needed.
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[17:30:54] <Connor> so. 2.4.7 latest live Cd then.
[17:31:06] <jdh> 2.5.0 I think
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[17:57:56] <IchGuckLive> hi all N)
[17:57:57] <IchGuckLive> :D
[17:58:28] <IchGuckLive> the bif freez is coming tonight 5F is expected
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[18:13:50] <IchGuckLive> not many postings today
[18:14:22] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: all parts milled ? Springs made
[18:17:06] <IchGuckLive> Rhinoucerus anounced today the new cam relese update for rhinocam 2012
[18:17:22] <Aero-Tec> still working on it
[18:17:44] <Aero-Tec> will report on things as I find out more info
[18:17:50] <IchGuckLive> also they got the new pricelist out Autsch 10.000USD for the master release
[18:18:28] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: sdid you remove all this junk lines from the g-code
[18:19:10] <Aero-Tec> I have in one version of the code
[18:19:21] <Aero-Tec> it did nothing
[18:19:31] <Aero-Tec> no change whatsoever
[18:19:44] <Aero-Tec> or that I noticed
[18:19:48] <IchGuckLive> are you on 2.4.3
[18:19:59] <Aero-Tec> 2.5 I think
[18:20:05] <Aero-Tec> will have to check
[18:20:19] <Aero-Tec> I know I updated the lathe, not sure of the mill
[18:20:32] <Aero-Tec> will check right now
[18:20:33] <IchGuckLive> NP
[18:20:49] <Aero-Tec> if not 2.5 I will update and see if that helps
[18:23:40] <Aero-Tec> so what is the latest lock down version?
[18:23:45] <Aero-Tec> 2.51?
[18:24:07] <Aero-Tec> lathe is 2.51, mill 2.46
[18:24:42] <IchGuckLive> http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/
[18:24:52] <IchGuckLive> why not up to date with 2.6.pre
[18:25:02] <Aero-Tec> would there be a big change in the way G64 and G93 work in the new version?
[18:25:49] <IchGuckLive> they are working all the time on it
[18:26:07] <Aero-Tec> would there not be more bugs in 2.6?
[18:26:26] <Aero-Tec> was thinking lock down would be more solid
[18:26:31] <IchGuckLive> not on your usige level
[18:26:50] <IchGuckLive> robot kinetic maybe
[18:27:15] <IchGuckLive> but you get some nice extras
[18:27:55] <Aero-Tec> after going through hell with mach and not knowing what was going to happen when I hit run or continue I am some what gun shy of anything that will or may go nuts and do it's own thing
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[18:28:07] <Aero-Tec> cool
[18:28:28] <Aero-Tec> so 2.6 would be good for me to use and have no problems?
[18:28:54] <IchGuckLive> juast master pppa
[18:29:08] <Aero-Tec> what cool extras does it have?
[18:29:40] <Aero-Tec> what is master pppa?
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[18:30:13] <IchGuckLive> Grid §D some new coding interpreter rewritings
[18:30:38] <IchGuckLive> 10.04 ?
[18:31:08] <Aero-Tec> I am running a intel P4
[18:31:12] <IchGuckLive> "deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt" put this into your packetspource
[18:31:22] <Aero-Tec> so I am not up to date with linux
[18:31:30] <Aero-Tec> will have to check the version
[18:31:46] <Aero-Tec> it would be the version that came with 2.4
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[18:40:24] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: type "lsb_release -a" in a terminal without quotes
[18:42:11] <Aero-Tec> can I have 2.5 and 2.6 installed and ready to run st the same time?
[18:42:24] <Aero-Tec> could switch between them as needed
[18:42:45] <IchGuckLive> yes if you go for a git rep
[18:42:47] <Aero-Tec> If I try 2.6 would like to be able to go to 2.5 if needed
[18:43:23] <IchGuckLive> if you remove the ppa from source and then reinstrall via synaptic it goes back
[18:43:58] <IchGuckLive> it is nessesary to know if you are on 10.04 or 8.04
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[18:44:29] <IchGuckLive> this is realy a MUST
[18:44:41] <Aero-Tec> I am very green to linux and EMC so I have no idea what you just said
[18:44:50] <Aero-Tec> will run the term code now
[18:44:52] <Aero-Tec> BRB
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[18:45:18] <Aero-Tec> I understand about version 10 and 8
[18:47:49] <Aero-Tec> 10.04
[18:48:07] <Aero-Tec> I used to setup wed servers using linux
[18:48:15] <Aero-Tec> all remote work
[18:48:23] <IchGuckLive> :D B)
[18:48:24] <Aero-Tec> term and GUI interface
[18:48:28] <Aero-Tec> all redhat
[18:48:53] <Aero-Tec> never did it sitting in front of the computer
[18:49:08] <Aero-Tec> have no idea how to recompile
[18:49:30] <IchGuckLive> so use the ppa
[18:49:40] <IchGuckLive> did you use synaptic
[18:49:40] <Aero-Tec> I do know allot of what I do not know
[18:49:46] <Aero-Tec> no
[18:49:54] <Aero-Tec> have no idea what that is
[18:50:02] <IchGuckLive> type sudo synaptic in to a terminal
[18:50:18] <IchGuckLive> this is the packet manager
[18:50:43] <IchGuckLive> there are all the nice 250.000 free programms of linux
[18:50:54] <IchGuckLive> just a Hook away
[18:51:07] <Aero-Tec> is emc 2.6 one of them?
[18:51:18] <IchGuckLive> yes
[18:51:21] <Aero-Tec> cool
[18:51:24] <Aero-Tec> BRB
[18:51:48] <IchGuckLive> you need to ad the packetsource from buildbot and reload
[18:52:06] <IchGuckLive> then search for linuxcnc and give it a hook
[18:53:30] <IchGuckLive> press packet
[18:53:40] <IchGuckLive> then source then tirdparty
[18:54:17] <IchGuckLive> hit add and copy "deb
http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/ lucid master-rt"
[18:54:36] <IchGuckLive> into it without quotes ofcause
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[18:56:24] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: only update the linuxcnc nothing else maybe the doc
[18:58:22] <IchGuckLive> Aero-Tec: did you need the smi fix on your p4 then it migt be also be fixed after the newone is installed as this file is cleared
[19:00:55] <Aero-Tec> yes to SMI fix
[19:01:14] <IchGuckLive> the new version will clear this file
[19:01:26] <Aero-Tec> so I will have to redo it?
[19:01:36] <IchGuckLive> http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?FixingSMIIssues
[19:01:40] <Aero-Tec> or will I nees SMI fix for the new version?
[19:02:17] <IchGuckLive> ->"/etc/linuxcnc/rtapi.conf
[19:02:30] <IchGuckLive> not more emc
[19:02:53] <Aero-Tec> right
[19:03:20] <Aero-Tec> will the update remover the EMC dir, or del the files in it?
[19:03:21] <IchGuckLive> did you manage synaptic
[19:03:27] <IchGuckLive> no
[19:03:39] <Aero-Tec> would save me doing a copy save so I have the mods made
[19:03:46] <Aero-Tec> I had it
[19:03:52] <Aero-Tec> but no linux cnc
[19:04:05] <Aero-Tec> had emc2 1.2.4.7
[19:04:16] <Aero-Tec> or something like that
[19:04:23] <IchGuckLive> if you have made changes to the standar configs in the linuxcncn folder then it is renewd
[19:04:37] <Aero-Tec> came back to tell you and I saw what I need to do to fix that
[19:05:07] <IchGuckLive> im off at :15
[19:05:40] <Aero-Tec> off for the day or will you be back later?
[19:06:00] <Aero-Tec> I will most likely be longer then 10 min
[19:06:03] <IchGuckLive> no finish for today its late here
[19:06:12] <Aero-Tec> where are you?
[19:06:14] <IchGuckLive> Berlin time
[19:06:23] <IchGuckLive> Germany
[19:06:25] <Aero-Tec> cool
[19:06:40] <Aero-Tec> thanks for all your help
[19:06:50] <IchGuckLive> NP
[19:06:51] <Aero-Tec> wish I had more time
[19:07:09] <IchGuckLive> there will be a time you might help me
[19:07:27] <Aero-Tec> I look forward to it
[19:07:34] <Aero-Tec> if I can help
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[19:08:28] <Aero-Tec> will you still be logged on so I can send you info with private IRC?
[19:08:41] <IchGuckLive> no
[19:08:54] <IchGuckLive> all systewm shutdown O.O
[19:09:26] <Aero-Tec> I keep mine up 24-7
[19:10:31] <Aero-Tec> I can get back to work faster and have every thing exact as I left it
[19:11:41] <Aero-Tec> what time do you usually log in?
[19:12:32] <Aero-Tec> your new updates you gave me may work better in the new version
[19:13:05] <Aero-Tec> I had to undo all of it as the mill did not want to work as well with your setings
[19:13:54] <Aero-Tec> setting to 15000 made emc complain, so did 20000, had to go back to 25000
[19:13:55] <IchGuckLive> im herre from 1900-2015 Berlin time
[19:14:25] <IchGuckLive> 25k needs a recalculation of the step
[19:14:58] <Aero-Tec> will the update make it where 1500 will work?
[19:15:01] <Aero-Tec> maybe
[19:15:09] <Aero-Tec> 15000
[19:15:24] <Aero-Tec> times up
[19:15:26] <Aero-Tec> later
[19:15:43] <IchGuckLive> http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=linuxcnc%20steptimingcalculator&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC8QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.linuxcnc.org%2Fuploads%2FStepTimingCalculator.ods&ei=UIbHUILQL6KH4ASIrYCIDg&usg=AFQjCNFWYyA5VVjNMEx7FGXkIY_FVvdqzw
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[19:44:12] <Jymmm> Tomorrow 12-12-12, will be the last sequential date you will ever see.
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[19:46:13] <jdh> I plan on seeing the next one.
[19:46:26] <Tom_itx> so celebrate it at 12:12 PM
[19:46:52] <archivist> that would be 12 seconds early
[19:47:07] <Tom_itx> or 12:12 AM if you're up
[19:47:25] <Tom_itx> gotta start early when you're old
[19:48:07] <Jymmm> lol
[19:48:21] <Jymmm> jdh: 01-01-01 ?
[19:50:10] <jdh> yep.
[19:52:20] <andypugh> It's a good plan with a 20% chance of success.
[19:52:36] <andypugh> (20% of people are currently immortal)
[19:53:38] <Jymmm> MORTAL COMBAT!!!
[19:53:41] <archivist> just play god and rework the calender
[19:54:13] <sliptonic> Whoa! Linuxcnc just lost control of my cnc router and destroyed a piece of stock. Never saw that happen before.
[19:54:50] <archivist> define "lost control"
[19:55:00] <Jymmm> Of Mayan decent? Write the new calendar! Due date 2012-12-20
[19:55:40] <sliptonic> I've run the same job about 10 times in the last few days. This time, about half way through, the Y axis just kept on going in one direction.
[19:55:42] <cpresser> Jymmm: better: convince people to pay you money for it :)
[19:55:58] <Jymmm> cpresser: Good idea!!!
[19:56:11] <sliptonic> The backplot shows the spindle sitting in the middle not moving but the gantry was cruising at feed speed right through the material and on down the table.
[19:56:25] <sliptonic> No error.
[19:56:28] <Jymmm> cpresser: Too bad Billy Mays isn't around still
[19:57:24] <archivist> sliptonic, cable problem to the direction pin? or noise to the clock pin, check cable screens and wiring
[19:58:09] <archivist> I have also seen vfd noise get into the clock of a stepper driver
[19:58:51] * Jymmm lol @ archivist, that's funny
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[19:59:52] <Jymmm> sliptonic: Are you aware that linuxcnc does NOT need a GUI to run a job?
[20:00:07] <archivist> ?
[20:00:33] <sliptonic> Hmmm. Cables look fine. Y axis motor is fixed so no cable flex. Environment is dustier than normal. No VFD on this machine. Jymmmm: yes
[20:00:33] <archivist> that has NO relation to his problem
[20:00:43] <Jymmm> sliptonic: k
[20:01:41] <Jymmm> archivist: I don't know that; maybe the GUI locked up as he said it wasn't moving on the screen but was on the machine.
[20:02:14] <sliptonic> GUI was still responsive. I hit estop there before the gantry hit the max limit.
[20:02:23] <archivist> sliptonic, here I am on about cables to the drivers rather than the driver to motor
[20:03:04] <Jymmm> and only ground one end of any shielding
[20:03:21] <sliptonic> One parallel cable from pc to controller.
[20:04:05] <Jymmm> sliptonic: Is the connector isolated on one end?
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[20:05:12] <Jymmm> sliptonic: is the parallel cable shielded?
[20:05:32] <sliptonic> Jymmm: Same cable I've been running for 3 years. Shielded.
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[20:09:11] <archivist> with the "right" kind of flexing I have seen cable fail in about 10 minutes, 3 years may be a long time for an amount of flexing of a cable
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[20:13:52] <skunkworks> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mach1mach2cnc/message/137742
[20:14:08] <cpresser> sliptonic: anyway, you will have to check your wiring and stepper motor-driver.
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[20:14:38] <cpresser> or restart the machine and take a look at halscope and attach a multimeter to the par-port.
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[20:22:48] <JT-Shop> skunkworks: did you see the guy with the hyd brake on the forum?
[20:23:05] <skunkworks> no - link?
[20:23:39] <JT-Shop> http://linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/25937-newbie-question-about-press-brake
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[20:33:01] <skunkworks> interesting... That is old school.
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[20:43:55] <JT-Shop> didn't know if you could offer some insight to him about the hyd part
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[20:45:36] <andypugh> Potentiometer feedback and proportioning valves, it will all look perfectly conventional to LinuxCNC
[20:45:56] <andypugh> The potentiometer feedback is actually likely to be the most difficult part.
[20:46:44] <cradek> at least a couple of our supported IO cards have adc
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[21:41:04] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7b05pf9Dqnw
[21:42:51] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:04:06] <cpresser> nice welding:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fB1BDrFzFY0&feature=player_embedded :P
[22:11:15] <tjb1> Is r00t4rd3d_ in jail yet?
[22:11:18] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d:
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[22:26:01] <r00t4rd3d> ?
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[22:37:04] <tjb1> PCW: Im calling.
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[22:41:01] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, wtf are you talking about?
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[22:44:26] <tjb1> r00t4rd3d: Be careful with copyrighted stuff
[22:44:55] <r00t4rd3d> lol
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[22:46:55] <tjb1> You be laughin till bubba finds you
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[22:58:49] <r00t4rd3d> Im bubba
[22:59:13] <rob_h> well i now have a 4 axis powertooled lathe to retrofit after christmas :)
[22:59:19] <toastyde1th> that's awesome
[22:59:27] <r00t4rd3d> I got so much work to cnc for people its not funny
[22:59:28] <toastyde1th> 4 axis = two turret, or four axis = xyz + c
[22:59:33] <rob_h> two turrets
[23:00:21] <rob_h> at moments its a Index on spindle with pin lock, but thinkings i can servo that easy
[23:03:03] <rob_h> plus one of the fanucs on the mill deicded to die today so one other jogs to try and fix
[23:08:01] <JT-Shop> evening rob_h
[23:08:09] <rob_h> Hi there
[23:08:15] <rob_h> do u need some xmas work?
[23:08:18] <JT-Shop> hows it going
[23:08:28] <JT-Shop> I actually have some work in the shop
[23:09:28] <rob_h> not too bad here, never a dull day
[23:13:17] <JT-Shop> I'm reworking the plasma water table and putting the slats inside
[23:13:17] <rob_h> sounds fun
[23:13:17] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/238865
[23:13:17] <jdh> did you cut the slat slots on the table?
[23:13:17] <JT-Shop> the water table was an add on after a few cuts lol
[23:13:17] <JT-Shop> on the back side or the slat supports?
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[23:13:18] <jdh> I'm not sure what that means.
[23:13:18] <jdh> the slots in teh pieces
[23:13:42] <rob_h> are you sure u made it big enought tho? as u know u ways want that extra 1" for a job
[23:14:16] <JT-Shop> jdh: yes I milled the vertial slots in the slat supports
[23:14:37] <andypugh> First job for the water table, make the next set of slats...
[23:14:55] <jdh> they all look like slats to me, except for the outer frame
[23:14:57] <JT-Shop> I've had the water table for 4 years but the slats were above it
[23:18:29] <jdh> http://www.bidspotter.com/forms/staticitem.php?photo=15247649&gallery=20107
[23:19:26] <toastyde1th> you could make a water table like a turret punch
[23:19:38] <toastyde1th> no slats at all!
[23:20:33] <JT-Shop> cutting totally unneeded but aesthetically pleasing drain openings
http://imagebin.org/238974
[23:20:50] <JT-Shop> dunno what that looks like
[23:21:08] <toastyde1th> ?
[23:21:32] <JT-Shop> <toastyde1th> you could make a water table like a turret punch
[23:22:48] <toastyde1th> on a turret press/punch, the cutter stays still and the material moves
[23:22:49] <toastyde1th> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuIjIcgBPlY
[23:22:59] <JT-Shop> ah ok
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[23:23:11] <toastyde1th> often they're integrated with lasers, too
[23:23:32] <toastyde1th> i'm pretty sure this one is
[23:24:20] <toastyde1th> nope, nvm
[23:25:59] <JT-Shop> I'm sure it would be more cost effective to continue down the path I'm on
[23:27:06] <toastyde1th> certainly less space
[23:28:56] <JT-Shop> while I'm not as challenged as archivist for space I don't have much left
[23:29:17] <rob_h> thats what u need next JT, a sheet loader, then u put ur feet up
[23:29:36] <JT-Shop> have to come through the wall...
[23:30:06] <rob_h> i dout it would be the first time done
[23:31:08] <rob_h> has any one ever converted a turret punch onto linuxcnc
[23:31:40] <JT-Shop> dunno
[23:32:04] <JT-Shop> I'd bet someone has somewhere in the world
[23:32:21] <rob_h> guys down road from us keep asking me about theres if its convertable
[23:32:36] <rob_h> as fanuc 6T is quite costly to keep fixing now days
[23:32:38] <JT-Shop> I don't see why not
[23:32:52] <JT-Shop> move to XY and punch right?
[23:32:54] <rob_h> now just the way u need to hit and move i guess
[23:33:22] <rob_h> yea thats easy just when u nibble need a cycle for it or something
[23:33:49] <toastyde1th> i'm pretty sure turret punches are too expensive to operate on a hobby scale
[23:34:01] <rob_h> im not talking hobby
[23:34:05] <toastyde1th> "hey guys look at my emc roll grinder"
[23:34:14] <toastyde1th> "pls implement crowning"
[23:34:43] <rob_h> every one needs a turret punch tho, keeps the neighbours happy at night
[23:34:52] <JT-Shop> lol
[23:35:57] <rob_h> or is that what a big power press is for
[23:36:11] <toastyde1th> forging hammer
[23:36:17] <toastyde1th> 5t drop weight
[23:36:43] <toastyde1th> that would be really funny to see an elctrohydraulic drop hammer on emc
[23:36:47] <toastyde1th> *electro
[23:37:16] <JT-Shop> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKkaydihNTM
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[23:37:55] <TekniQue> new stuff, I love new stuff.
[23:37:56] <TekniQue> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/325520_10151177027201662_335902259_o.jpg
[23:38:11] <TekniQue> err, wrong window
[23:38:24] <rob_h> dont u love it when u do that
[23:38:54] <JT-Shop> my favorite classical music
[23:55:27] <JT-Shop> any thoughts on this
http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/threads/18917-Qualitative-flatness-testing-cheap-%28pics%29
[23:56:08] <toastyde1th> cool idea, except the laser level is unqualified
[23:56:38] <toastyde1th> i read that article earlier and thought it was ingenious as shit
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[23:57:59] <toastyde1th> he's got the reference plate, which is critical
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[23:58:47] <JT-Shop> I think it is one step above a HF laser
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[23:59:49] <toastyde1th> the issue i have with that method is that once you have an appropriately qualified surface (which i argue his is not), you already have a faster and easier method to check flatness of parts
