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[00:13:05] <jthornton> pcw_home, yes I have that and even ran the apt get again to be sure
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[00:42:44] <kwallace1> Hello. I want to change the normal X direction on my lathe. I reversed the encoder scale and the axis moves the way I want. Gremlin also shows movement to the North as positive, so far so good. My problem is that the soft limits are reversed so I run into the South limit when moving North. Anyone have a hint on how to fix this? Thanks and Merry Christmas.
[00:43:31] <jthornton> change your sign on the limits
[00:43:45] <jthornton> are you using gscreen? just wondering
[00:44:11] <jthornton> my lathe faces East and West so I'm a bit confused :)
[00:45:06] <tjb1> I dont have a lathe :(
[00:45:50] <kwallace1> I tried reversing the sign of the limits but that didn't work either. I'm using a custom UI with Gremlin.
[00:48:00] <jthornton> you have individual inputs for each end of the axis?
[00:50:02] <kwallace1> I think so. I have -.2 for South, 4.6 for North.
[00:51:08] <jthornton> yikes gotta run
[00:51:46] <kwallace1> Thanks.
[00:52:22] <kwallace1> Have a good evening.
[00:52:34] <kwallace1> Oops. I gotta go too.
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[01:41:11] <Jymmm> !!! Merry Christmas !!!
[01:43:55] <tjb1> You too Jymmmy boy.
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[01:52:56] <Jymmm> heh
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[04:51:39] <Jymmm> http://ak.imgag.com/imgag/product/preview/flash/bws8Shell_fps24.swf?ihost=http://ak.imgag.com/imgag&brandldrPath=/product/full/el/&cardNum=/product/full/ap/3166187/graphic1
[05:08:42] <Nick001> Nice Merry Christmas
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[08:31:05] <DJ9DJ> moin
[08:31:24] <Jymmm> !!! Merry Christmas !!!
[08:31:48] <DJ9DJ> merry xmas!
[08:31:51] <DJ9DJ> hi Jymmm
[08:32:51] <Jymmm> howdy howdy howdy
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[08:39:54] <tjb1> Howdy?
[08:40:07] <DJ9DJ> :)
[08:40:31] <tjb1> I went to bed at 9…woke up thinking it was 6-7…it was 12
[08:41:21] <DJ9DJ> sleepyhead :D
[08:42:06] <tjb1> 9pm - 12am
[08:42:08] <tjb1> 3 hours :P
[08:42:20] <DJ9DJ> oh :/
[08:43:06] <Jymmm> Santa Loves me...
http://www.fenixlight.com/viewproduct.asp?id=144
[08:43:29] <Jymmm> mines in all black instead of orange
[08:44:13] <tjb1> I got a laptop…thats the only thing im sure of so far
[08:44:55] <Jymmm> tjb1: We returned it and got you a speak and spell instead
[08:45:07] <tjb1> Oh goody
[08:45:19] <tjb1> I had to stand in line for 3 hours to get said laptop...
[08:45:25] <Jymmm> Uses ONE AA battery and is waterproof IPX8 rated
[08:45:40] <Jymmm> tjb1: Only took 7 minutes to return it
[08:46:18] <Jymmm> tjb1: You waited in line 3h ?
[08:46:31] <tjb1> Its a black friday laptop
[08:46:45] <tjb1> Thats how I know I got it…I'm the one who stood in line
[08:50:44] <Jymmm> tjb1: what is is?
[08:50:57] <Jymmm> tjb1: and how much?
[08:51:11] <tjb1> http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-g6-1d80nr-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B0085RUZ7S
[08:51:14] <tjb1> $299
[08:55:47] <Jymmm> Eh, I really dont know AMD too well, though I did look t up, not bad.
[08:56:28] <tjb1> Should be able to handle sheetcam and whatever is needed for a 3d printer
[08:57:26] <Jymmm> tjb1: Just be aware that laptops are BAD for real time machining
[08:57:34] <tjb1> I know
[08:57:37] <Jymmm> k
[08:57:46] <tjb1> Building a Intel D525MW for that
[08:58:00] <Jymmm> k
[08:58:04] <tjb1> :)
[08:58:16] <tjb1> Got the laptop so I dont have to take my good one into the garage
[08:58:40] <Jymmm> you WILL be able to run VM's on the laptop though, if we dind't return it that is.
[08:59:28] <tjb1> Its getting fresh windows as soon as I open it
[08:59:37] <tjb1> I started it to find out what ram it needed…tons of bloatware
[08:59:53] <Jymmm> tjb1: And you waited three hours in line to buy from Amazon??? SUCKER!!!
[09:01:05] <tjb1> kmart
[09:01:29] <Jymmm> We watched the traditional Christmas Eve movie... Body Snatchers!
[09:02:38] <Jymmm> Heh, I maxed out the ram in my gf's iMac for Christmas =)
[09:03:04] <Jymmm> She watched videos on how to do it long ago.
[09:04:15] <tjb1> How to do what
[09:04:16] <tjb1> ?
[09:04:31] <Jymmm> install the ram in an imac
[09:04:54] <tjb1> suction cups
[09:04:55] <tjb1> and fun
[09:05:19] <Jymmm> No, that's to remove the hdd. and I bought a sucktion cup for that long ago
[09:05:44] <tjb1> You can replace ram without taking the screen off?
[09:05:50] <Jymmm> yep
[09:06:16] <tjb1> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3090951/Screen%20Shot%202012-12-25%20at%204.05.56%20AM.png
[09:06:45] <Jymmm> 16gb
[09:07:07] <tjb1> mine is maxed
[09:07:33] <Jymmm> you have a mac and bought a laptop?
[09:07:45] <tjb1> i have a macbook pro
[09:07:57] <Jymmm> why buy the laptop?
[09:08:13] <tjb1> tjb1: Got the laptop so I dont have to take my good one into the garage
[09:08:14] <tjb1> [03:58am]
[09:08:17] <tjb1> :P
[09:08:29] <Jymmm> ok
[09:08:49] <tjb1> This damn thing cost too much money
[09:09:18] <tjb1> HA, review on amazon was like it include norton security
[09:09:20] <tjb1> Idiot.
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[09:09:33] <Jymmm> i7 and max 8gb, seems a waste.
[09:09:56] <tjb1> 2.5 years old now
[09:10:54] <tjb1> its like a 6.5 in windows rating
[09:11:37] <Jymmm> huh?
[09:12:17] <tjb1> the windows rating
[09:12:25] <Jymmm> what is that?
[09:13:00] <tjb1> go to my computer than system roperties
[09:13:13] <Jymmm> hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
[09:13:30] <tjb1> properties
[09:13:37] <tjb1> then...
[09:13:45] <tjb1> its late
[09:14:00] <Jymmm> Yeah, I get what you're saying.... still funny.
[09:14:39] <Jymmm> It's kinda asking the devil what he wants for his birthday.
[09:14:48] <tjb1> im lost
[09:15:15] <Jymmm> tjb1: "Windows Rating" much less "Windows" itself is a joke these days.
[09:15:26] <tjb1> ill never move to 8
[09:15:47] <Jymmm> XP VM or XPLive
[09:16:10] <tjb1> I like 7
[09:16:15] <Jymmm> anythign beyond that is kinda pointless
[09:16:40] <Jymmm> I've had W7 in a drawer for years, never touched it.
[09:17:45] <tjb1> i need to find out how to dual boot ubuntu onto this new laptop
[09:18:00] <tjb1> it screwed up my windows partition on mac when I tried to triple boot
[09:18:12] <Jymmm> boot camp?
[09:18:31] <tjb1> well I had mountain lion and windows 7 then added ubuntu and it killed windows 7
[09:19:10] <Jymmm> It makes no sense to do all that when you have an i7 and can just run VM's
[09:19:19] <tjb1> I hate parallels
[09:19:38] <tjb1> Its all screwy when using solidworks in it
[09:19:38] <Jymmm> there's also vmware and irtualbox
[09:19:52] <tjb1> I tried virtual bo
[09:19:54] <tjb1> box
[09:20:13] <tjb1> almost used that "switch from parallels to vmware" promotion but decided not to
[09:21:41] <Jymmm> Well, to run M$ on bare metal is just stupid these days. There are so many benefits to running VM
[09:22:23] <Jymmm> If you have issues with VM, you should see what others are doing.
[09:22:37] <tjb1> I might try again after school is done
[09:22:54] <tjb1> I got my SSD when they were pretty new so I only have 120gb in my macbook
[09:23:21] <Jymmm> so? delete the pr0n
[09:24:13] <tjb1> no pr0n on it
[09:25:10] <tjb1> bout time for bed, tv is starting to suck
[09:25:56] <Jymmm> lol, it started to suck 30 years ago. G'Night =)
[09:26:23] * Jymmm hugs his 8TB NAS box =)
[09:27:09] <tjb1> after 3am its nothing but infomercials
[09:27:23] <Jymmm> Netflix or pbs
[09:27:40] <tjb1> we dont have highspeed at home except when im home with my phone
[09:27:50] <Jymmm> ah
[09:29:21] <tjb1> Yeah, Verizon blows.
[09:29:49] <tjb1> Ok, I'm out. Long day ahead… Merry Christmas Jymmm
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[09:30:01] <Jymmm> tjb1: Merry Christmas
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[14:16:15] <IchGuckLive> hi all around the world and merry X-mas
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[14:31:41] <Jymmm> Merry Christmas!
[14:31:52] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: Are you always in Finland?
[14:32:40] <awallin-mobile> mostly yes...
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[14:32:53] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: Ah, I just didn't realize it =)
[14:34:05] <tjb1> Jymmm: I never made it back to sleep…going to be a long day
[14:34:14] <awallin-mobile> trying irc on my phone... might be connected differently than normally..
[14:34:57] <Jymmm> tjb1: Eat lots of Christmas dinner all day long, that'll help keep you awake =)
[14:35:13] <tjb1> Yeah turkey = instant tired
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[14:36:06] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: new toy?
[14:36:14] <tjb1> I could be napping right now but im trying to update this laptop
[14:36:28] <Jymmm> lol
[14:36:36] <tjb1> Gotta babysit windows update
[14:36:53] <Jymmm> tjb1: You are keeping Win8 ?
[14:37:07] <tjb1> No I installed a clean version of win 7
[14:37:15] <tjb1> It had win 7 but it had a bunch of junk on it
[14:37:23] <awallin-mobile> nah 1yr old phone... n9, runs linux
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[14:37:47] <awallin-mobile> just drink more coffee ;)
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[14:38:04] <tjb1> Im on cup 3 lol
[14:38:54] <tjb1> I tried some "french vanilla" coffee…yeah french vanilla my ass
[14:39:03] <Jymmm> awallin-mobile: nice, too bad tjb1 doesn't get the NO WINDOWS hint ;)
[14:39:19] <Jymmm> VM, never bare metal =)
[14:39:21] <tjb1> Its getting ubuntu too!
[14:39:33] <Jymmm> tjb1: No, not too. VM
[14:39:40] <tjb1> Im not that good with linux
[14:40:12] <Jymmm> tjb1: What do you need that you don't have now?
[14:40:32] <tjb1> The computer to download the damn display driver update
[14:40:35] <tjb1> lol
[14:40:53] <Jymmm> tjb1: Nt needed for linux =)
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[14:41:25] <tjb1> I think the linux version of sheetcam is lacking :P
[14:41:39] <Jymmm> tjb1: Besides, you have a backup computer already, not like it's your only computer.
[14:41:52] <Jymmm> tjb1: I said VM, just not bare metal
[14:41:53] <tjb1> I have like 4 computers, 2 laptops and 2 desktops now
[14:42:18] <tjb1> Ill install that on linux and once I get used to it I will kill the windows partition
[14:43:12] <tjb1> What VM software do you use on linux?
[14:43:27] <Jymmm> VB is most common
[14:43:35] <tjb1> virtual box?
[14:43:35] <Jymmm> VirtualBox
[14:43:55] <tjb1> See if I can download linuxcnc today
[14:44:02] <awallin-mobile> itunes and garmin-usb connectivity are the ones i use win for...
[14:44:02] <tjb1> I think Verizon has me throttled
[14:44:06] <Jymmm> just check the forums/google to see if there are any quirks
[14:45:12] <tjb1> 25.3GB on my data so far
[14:45:31] <Jymmm> ?
[14:45:44] <tjb1> My phone data plan
[14:45:58] <tjb1> I tether to phone
[14:45:58] <Jymmm> lol
[14:46:32] <tjb1> Had to pay full price for my phone but boy was it worth it
[14:46:45] <Jymmm> how so?
[14:47:20] <tjb1> Had to buy it full price to keep unlimited data
[14:47:45] <Jymmm> to get a replacement phone?
[14:47:53] <archivist> people feel better when they pay more :)
[14:47:53] <tjb1> ?
[14:48:05] <tjb1> My iphone was dying so I had to buy new phone
[14:48:15] <tjb1> If I use upgrade, Verizon kicks me off unlimited data
[14:48:36] <Jymmm> tjb1: how much for the phone and what is it now?
[14:48:51] <tjb1> $600 - Samsung Galaxy S3
[14:49:09] <tjb1> Yes, finally got the display driver
[14:49:26] <Jymmm> 24GB driver???
[14:49:51] <tjb1> What are you talking about?
[14:50:12] <Jymmm> tjb1: 2012-12-25 06:45:12 tjb1: 25.3GB on my data so far
[14:50:30] <tjb1> Yes, I have used 25.3 gb of phone data this month
[14:50:57] <Jymmm> tjb1: You didn't say THIS MONTH, just that you were doing windows update and downloading display driver.
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[14:51:31] <IchGuckLive> USA waking up to a paper war at Xmas
[14:51:46] <tjb1> Oh, well thats a huge display driver then
[14:52:13] <IchGuckLive> 65inch display at xmas is fun
[14:52:14] <Jymmm> tjb1: and that's why I asked if it was 24GB???
[14:52:23] <tjb1> No but HP is a prick
[14:52:33] <tjb1> It didnt get the wireless driver with windows update >:(
[14:53:10] <Jymmm> tjb1: Well, just be glad you didn't stand in line 3 hours to buy the computer.
[14:53:40] <tjb1> :)
[14:53:57] <tjb1> Saved $170
[14:54:06] <tjb1> Thats $57 an hour
[14:55:04] <IchGuckLive> an average master value per hourr
[14:55:18] <IchGuckLive> so you are forman mastercheef
[14:55:49] <tjb1> Eh?
[14:56:19] <tjb1> How much do you pay your translator? :P
[14:57:19] <IchGuckLive> oh thay firerd me of my good english
[14:57:38] <tjb1> Post that message in your native language
[14:57:51] <DJ9DJ> hrhr
[14:58:15] <IchGuckLive> Da hast du soviel verdient wie ein Handwerksmeister
[14:58:15] <Tom_itx> gn8 is awake
[15:09:55] <tjb1> IchGuckLive: Since you have so much earned as a master craftsman?
[15:11:19] <IchGuckLive> you can get more then that
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[15:15:29] <tjb1> I can get more what?
[15:17:53] <IchGuckLive> money
[15:23:27] <tjb1> I spent 3 hours in line to save $170, thats $57 an hour :P
[15:23:38] <tjb1> and I hope I can make more than that, I have huge student loans to pay off
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[15:24:14] <IchGuckLive> what is the pc type
[15:24:41] <tjb1> http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-g6-1d80nr-15-6-Inch-Laptop/dp/B0085RUZ7S
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[15:29:01] <IchGuckLive> nice pice
[15:30:13] <tjb1> Hey Jymmm-y, downloaded all updates :)
[15:30:27] <tjb1> Thanks IchGuckLive
[15:30:48] <Jymmm> tjb1: Are you ready to do the 20 reboots now?
[15:31:10] <tjb1> In the middle of that now
[15:31:24] <tjb1> The screen is shat compared to my macbook though
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[15:31:48] <tjb1> Its "Assembling Service Pack"
[15:31:59] <Jymmm> lol
[15:32:27] <tjb1> "Do not tap glass, workers scare easily"
[15:32:39] <tjb1> "May result in broken computer"
[15:32:53] <Jymmm> it actually says that?
[15:32:57] <tjb1> Yes
[15:33:02] <Jymmm> *sigh*
[15:33:04] <tjb1> They are assembling the service pack
[15:33:10] <tjb1> :P
[15:33:42] <Jymmm> M$ has sunk to a new low, now it's a kiddie os, and the sadest part of all.... YOU ARE INTENTIONALLY INSTALLING IT!
[15:34:04] <tjb1> Ill come to the dark side soon enough!
[15:34:10] * Jymmm hides his head from the shame this is tjb1
[15:34:21] <tjb1> *that is
[15:34:32] <IchGuckLive> are there still bluescreens on windows
[15:34:36] <tjb1> Yes
[15:34:42] <IchGuckLive> or did they change the color
[15:34:43] <Jymmm> tjb1: You ARE in the darkside, just so blinded that you dont know it!
[15:34:46] <tjb1> Man these workers are slow, still assembling
[15:36:10] <IchGuckLive> youtube today is overwarmed by vid posters
[15:36:24] <Jymmm> tjb1: Better make more coffee
[15:36:32] <IchGuckLive> it takes so long to get the video desembled
[15:39:02] <tjb1> Still going...
[15:39:10] <IchGuckLive> as here 2
[15:39:32] <IchGuckLive> as you say im leaving line and getting prozessed
[15:39:56] <tjb1> Oh its configuring it now
[15:40:20] <IchGuckLive> i got now so many questions on linuxcnc as im not a pro im getting overquestioned
[15:46:24] <tjb1> I think its on restart 4 just for this service pack
[15:51:51] <IchGuckLive> have a nice day im off By
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[16:34:54] <JT-Shop> the reduction in smoke and dust is amazing
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[16:51:20] <r00t4rd3d> random much?
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[17:39:36] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/videos/plasma-10.mp4
[17:45:46] <awallin_> nice.
[17:45:55] <awallin_> with belt-drive, what accuracy do you get?
[17:46:18] <awallin_> is there feedback from the torch every time you plunge down? and during the feed? (to set an accurate z-height?)
[17:46:24] <JT-Shop> as good as a plasma can do
[17:46:30] <JT-Shop> yes
[17:47:47] <awallin_> what gas are you using?
[17:48:07] <JT-Shop> the torch floats and the microswitch is connected to probe input
[17:48:11] <JT-Shop> air
[17:49:05] <awallin_> so you just need the plasma-head, its psu, and a compressor for air?
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[17:49:38] <JT-Shop> it's is a Hypertherm 1250
[17:53:14] <JT-Shop> yes a compressor and dryer and a fine filter
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[18:53:51] <JT-Shop> quote of the day "All of us are smarter than any one
[18:53:51] <JT-Shop> of us."
[18:53:51] <JT-Shop> Rick Sparber
[18:55:13] <archivist> design by committee :)
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[19:33:21] <Tom_itx> not hardly the same
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[20:19:59] <mozmck> JT-Shop: here's one to balance your quote:
http://despair.com/meetings.html
[20:23:35] <mozmck> :)
[20:28:05] <JT-Shop> lol
[20:29:43] <p0st4L> you guys recommend any online shops to buy router bits from?
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[20:44:33] <JT-Shop> any place in the world?
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[22:06:00] <kwallace> Hello. Before I get started, has anyone remapped an M code for a collet closer? I don't want to reinvent the wheel if I don't have to.
[22:19:56] <JT-Shop> kwallace: are you using gremlin with master?
[22:20:02] <JT-Shop> and yes
[22:20:36] <kwallace> I'm using 2.6.0~pre
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[22:23:08] <JT-Shop> http://pastebin.com/1aKvy5sF and
http://pastebin.com/QzzpqrP1
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[22:24:27] <kwallace> But linuxcnc it has been fiddled with for back tooling or rather +x to the back side of the spindle. I diffed the different gremlins and the back tool bits seem to not affect gremlin but what gets fed to gremlin.
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[22:27:38] <kwallace> What M code did you use? You don't use an O routine?
[22:29:13] <JT-Shop> one is M101 and one is M102
[22:29:24] <JT-Shop> are you using gremlin in master?
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[22:32:17] <kwallace> Okay. I did the M100 thing already, but I though I would remap say M44 to make it something like M44 P1 for close and M44 P0 for open.
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[22:32:45] <JT-Shop> ok, did you get your view sorted out?
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[22:36:03] <kwallace> No the +X was modified to travel North in Gremlin but the soft limit border has +X going South. I think I need to go back the the author of the mod to see if the limit border can be fixed too.
[22:37:07] <cradek> kwallace:
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?CustomMcodesToHal
[22:37:37] <cradek> kwallace: ideally you'd have an input for "yes it is really closed now like you asked" and this shows you how to wait for it
[22:37:58] <cradek> kwallace: otherwise, it's trivial to do the halcmd sets/setp and just hope for the best and continue...
[22:42:36] <JT-Shop> I thought you used y2 for a back tool lathe in gremlin
[22:43:03] <kwallace> It seems to take a while for the mag flux to drain before the current clutch releases. I have a delay before I engage the new clutch. I haven't thought of a good way to confirm the release yet.
[22:44:15] <kwallace> Y2? If so I haven't seen it so far.
[22:44:52] <JT-Shop> depends on who wrote the python part I guess, but y2 view is for a back tool lathe
[22:45:55] <JT-Shop> http://git.linuxcnc.org/gitweb?p=linuxcnc.git;a=commit;h=09fc8df621bd41ede6cc9a22f6d0a7fde1c4dd4e
[22:46:36] <JT-Shop> so if your using an up to date master it is there
[22:46:52] <t12> bc
[22:47:50] <kwallace> Well, looks like I'll be off the streets for a while longer, looking over the Y2 stuff.
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[22:49:47] <kwallace> I've been vacuuming water out of the shop for the last few days, but I had to sleep some time and it got flooded anyway.
[22:50:14] <tjb1> Ho ho ho
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[22:51:34] <kwallace> I'm thinking of going to an active system with sumps and pumps below the slab.
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[22:55:08] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[23:02:04] <pcw_home> Merry Christmas and Happy Newtons day Joyful Natalis Solis Invicti
[23:02:21] <tjb1> Thats a mouthful
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[23:03:40] <pcw_home> dont want to leave anyone out
[23:06:24] <JT-Shop> lol
[23:06:41] <JT-Shop> kwallace: are you programming the gui?
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[23:10:16] <kwallace> No I'm trying to test conversational scripts on real hardware. Some times I get side tracked when things don't go as I expect, which is often when dealing with projects still in development.
[23:10:33] <JT-Shop> you working with Rogge?
[23:10:39] <kwallace> Yes.
[23:10:51] <JT-Shop> just tell him to add the y2 view for you
[23:11:00] <Jymmm> Anyone work on Fords?
[23:11:05] <JT-Shop> he can do that with one line of code
[23:11:28] <tjb1> Whats wrong with your Ford Jymmm
[23:11:41] <Jymmm> tjb1: Cranks, but won't start.
[23:11:43] <JT-Shop> send him that link if he has not noticed it
[23:11:50] <tjb1> That can be a lot of things
[23:11:53] <tjb1> What year
[23:11:55] <JT-Shop> tjb1: see the vid?
[23:12:02] <tjb1> What vid?
[23:12:37] <JT-Shop> the one I posted a while ago
[23:12:58] <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop>
http://gnipsel.com/shop/plasma/videos/plasma-10.mp4
[23:13:01] <kwallace> Okay. I'm not sure how that will go because I tend to insist on homing and soft limits and the powers that be may think otherwise.
[23:13:38] <JT-Shop> aye, me too
[23:15:32] <JT-Shop> with a back tool lathe is X reversed so a negitive move is toward you?
[23:17:03] <kwallace> Yes, but as a diameter.
[23:18:09] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Thats nice
[23:18:18] <tjb1> Have you ever done an edge start?
[23:19:57] <JT-Shop> every start in the video is an edge start
[23:20:26] <tjb1> I thought it looked close
[23:20:36] <JT-Shop> kwallace: or radius depending on your settings
[23:21:01] <tjb1> What do you do if you need to cut a hole in something that requires an edge start? drill a hole and edge start that?
[23:21:23] <JT-Shop> tjb1: I was impressed with the reduction in dust and smoke... only a bit of steam now
[23:21:37] <JT-Shop> just do a lead in move
[23:22:02] <tjb1> I thought you had been running a water table for a while
[23:22:16] <JT-Shop> I usually only cut 1/2" or less
[23:22:24] <JT-Shop> yes but it was below the slats
[23:22:35] <JT-Shop> a second thought after design
[23:22:49] <tjb1> If I get enough work for my table I would like to go to a powermax 105
[23:23:03] <JT-Shop> how many amps is that?
[23:23:07] <tjb1> 105
[23:23:23] <JT-Shop> nice, mine is 80
[23:24:08] <tjb1> I'll probably go with the powermax 85 though…the 105 requires 3 phase
[23:24:25] <tjb1> It's available but I don't know how much it will cost to get it to the garage
[23:24:36] <JT-Shop> do you have a plasma now?
[23:24:43] <tjb1> Yeah, the 45
[23:24:59] <JT-Shop> ah yes I remember now
[23:25:09] <JT-Shop> it will cut 1/4"?
[23:25:24] <tjb1> I believe it can do 3/4
[23:25:29] <tjb1> Very slow but it can do it
[23:25:54] <tjb1> Well the book says 1" at 4ipm
[23:26:16] <tjb1> 1/2" and above has edge start
[23:27:04] <tjb1> I got my new laptop today, fresh windows 7 and 8gb of ram
[23:27:15] <tjb1> So far I have sheetcam and draftsight on it
[23:29:14] <JT-Shop> do they call that a sever cut for 1"
[23:29:56] <JT-Shop> sever is a french word for fu***ng UGLY
[23:29:58] <tjb1> The website does, manual doesn't
[23:30:26] <tjb1> 3/4" at 10ipm is decent
[23:30:52] <JT-Shop> have you cut 3/4"?
[23:31:54] <tjb1> Not on the table
[23:32:07] <JT-Shop> by hand?
[23:32:13] <tjb1> I think I have done 5/8
[23:32:17] <tjb1> It was decent
[23:32:24] <JT-Shop> did it come with a drag tip?
[23:32:27] <tjb1> Yep
[23:32:36] <tjb1> I have a drag, gouge and machine tip now
[23:33:17] * JT-Shop ponders drilling the 10 1/2" holes to finish making the unstuckers
[23:33:49] <tjb1> One of the senior projects, the kid drilled, tapped and countersunk 184 holes
[23:34:07] <tjb1> Did like 40 with some stupid hand drill jig than the rest with a magnetic drill
[23:34:44] <tjb1> I get tired of tapping around 10 holes
[23:35:06] <JT-Shop> a good tap makes a world of difference
[23:35:42] <JT-Shop> was he testing the life of the tools or something?
[23:36:34] <tjb1> Frame jig table
[23:37:10] <JT-Shop> ah
[23:40:47] <JT-Shop> http://imagebin.org/240616
[23:41:02] <tjb1> What are those?
[23:41:16] <tjb1> At first I thought they were used on the frame for axle clearance
[23:41:16] <JT-Shop> it's a tool
[23:41:55] <JT-Shop> the arms under the bases pivot on the hole that is not in the base yet when you hit it with a hammer
[23:42:13] <JT-Shop> it unjams a nail gun on pallet making equipment
[23:43:05] <tjb1> How do you get all these cool jobs?
[23:43:45] <JT-Shop> here is one assembled
http://imagebin.org/240617
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[23:45:00] <JT-Shop> dunno, this guy knows me and knows everyone in the pallet business...
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[23:49:21] <tjb1> How much work did you do for those engines?
[23:50:03] <JT-Shop> for Briggs?
[23:50:32] <JT-Shop> or I don't understand the question
[23:51:25] <tjb1> Ive seen the thing for attaching the shroud or something and then the brake tester
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[23:52:09] <tjb1> Anyone here happen to be experienced in bowling?
[23:52:20] <JT-Shop> yes, that is for Briggs and Stratton and I do most of my work for them
[23:52:36] <tjb1> That sounds like an awesome job
[23:52:39] <JT-Shop> used to be a long long long time ago
[23:52:43] <JT-Shop> yea it is
[23:53:31] <JT-Shop> my first game was ok, the second was stellar and the last was terrible... funny how beer works
[23:54:54] <r00t4rd3d> normally works the opposite for me.
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[23:55:30] <r00t4rd3d> I cant play darts sober worth a shit but half loaded I can
[23:55:35] <tjb1> What do you look for when buying a ball?
[23:55:47] <r00t4rd3d> its got another attached
[23:56:02] <tjb1> >:(
[23:56:04] <r00t4rd3d> or that it weights
[23:56:10] <r00t4rd3d> -t
[23:56:13] <jdh> r00t: I would start out bad, get better after a few beers, then back downhill again after a dozen or so.
[23:57:07] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, no really just make sure its good stuff and not cut with a pile of baby laxative.
[23:57:25] <tjb1> not cut with baby laxative?
[23:58:02] <r00t4rd3d> didnt figure you would get it
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[23:58:20] <r00t4rd3d> i doubt many in here would
[23:58:34] <jdh> in theory only, of course.
