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[00:36:53] <t12_> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/w1qlnb5zqsaqkx5/sembj_fT74
[00:36:53] <t12_> score today
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[01:51:27] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeiv-I19kZU
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[02:10:52] <r00t4rd3d> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=name.antonsmirnov.android.arduinocommander
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[02:11:11] <r00t4rd3d> neat little app
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[02:55:59] <r00t4rd3d> wow wtf connection
[02:56:31] <r00t4rd3d> my internet has been sucking balls lately
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[02:57:34] <r00t4rd3d> i wanna click my heels and land in Kansas
[02:57:43] <r00t4rd3d> theres no place like fiber...
[02:59:06] <r00t4rd3d> Jymmm, can I borrow you ruby red high heels?
[02:59:25] <jdh> you would have to live in kansas
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[03:00:07] <r00t4rd3d> sounds good
[03:00:41] <r00t4rd3d> Ill go work at mcdonalds and rent a garage
[03:00:53] <jdh> in kansas
[03:00:56] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[03:01:10] <jdh> soundsd like hell
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[03:02:08] <r00t4rd3d> worth it
[03:02:22] <jdh> just for fast net.pr0n?
[03:03:07] <r00t4rd3d> nah just for a good speakeasy speed text forum sig
[03:03:36] <r00t4rd3d> test*
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[03:05:01] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/Qx9MH.png
[03:05:13] <jdh> I get 16/1, but that would be like 16,000/1,000 in kansas
[03:06:02] <bert__> can anyone in here help me with comp file issue?
[03:06:20] <jdh> I can't, but try asking and see if someone answers
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[03:07:16] <bert__> seems to be something wrong in the file, I get an error when I try to comp --install
[03:07:30] <bert__> error is something mad in the parser
[03:08:35] <r00t4rd3d> most errors in linux are self explaining
[03:09:08] <r00t4rd3d> pastebin.org the error
[03:09:15] <bert__> yes, ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
[03:09:34] <r00t4rd3d> did you give it a name?
[03:09:45] <r00t4rd3d> guessing nvm
[03:09:53] <bert__> filename?
[03:10:03] <bert__> yes I did
[03:10:13] <r00t4rd3d> does comp --help give you the proper formating ?
[03:11:00] <r00t4rd3d> like tell you the valid switches or commands and order they should go in
[03:11:28] <bert__> yes, I have a very simple file that will work
[03:11:49] <bert__> when I try the one I want - it doesn't
[03:12:33] <bert__> I had this issue 2 years ago, with the same 2 files. NEVER did figure it out, but for some reason re-typing semed to do it
[03:13:43] <bert__> So I have tried the same thing but this time does not work. REALLY want to find the real issue
[03:14:32] <jdh> <Gabriel__> This issue was resolved by changing the line a, b = f.split("\n;;\n", 1) for a, b = f.split("\n;;", 1) in the comp python script
[03:14:57] <r00t4rd3d> whats the exact command you run?
[03:15:15] <jdh> (somebody else with the same problem last year)
[03:15:29] <bert__> I found that, so is it a fix or a work around?
[03:15:35] <jdh> no clue
[03:16:13] <bert__> sudo comp --install path/FCepp.comp
[03:16:43] <r00t4rd3d> sudo python comp --install path/FCepp.comp
[03:16:47] <r00t4rd3d> whats that do?
[03:17:30] <bert__> doesn't like that
[03:17:49] <r00t4rd3d> was just a guess
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[03:18:43] <r00t4rd3d> but seems like you are only telling it the path to install but not what to install
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[03:18:58] <r00t4rd3d> or where to
[03:19:16] <bert__> it knows where to install it, I just need to tell it what to install
[03:20:49] <bert__> so if dropping the second \n from the split line worked for <Gabriel>, does it seem like I am missing a CR somewhere?
[03:21:28] <jdh> needs a trailing cr maybe?
[03:23:42] <bert__> am I right thinking it is looking for a CR then ;; then CR?
[03:25:54] <r00t4rd3d> http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/details?mid=cadb8b5c7a389374cce5962014d590b&prevstart=0
[03:25:58] <r00t4rd3d> interesting
[03:26:23] <ve7it> http://www.ebay.com/itm/290762302245 nice looking MPG
[03:27:04] <jdh> looks like the ;; delimits the code
[03:28:35] <bert__> so: a,b = f.split("\n;;\n",1)
[03:29:26] <jdh> got something weird after the ;; in teh comp?
[03:29:28] <bert__> says to split the code into 2 sections, section 1 being before the \n;;\n called a, and section 2 after(being called b)
[03:29:49] <bert__> per the instructions, the rest of the code
[03:30:14] <bert__> error is : "more than 1 value to unpack"
[03:30:43] <bert__> so maybe I have 2 ;; somewhere and am not seeing them
[03:31:13] <jdh> or whitespace after the ;; ?
[03:31:26] <t12_> todays camera swap meet find: https://www.dropbox.com/sc/dnwj13hv11cyovn/s_Ym_lgpRn
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[03:31:37] <t12> if freenode is working now
[03:31:55] <jdh> cool. what is it?
[03:32:11] <t12> appears to be for measuring the focal plane of some series of canon cameras
[03:32:23] <t12> anvil is a mirror
[03:34:47] <bert__> tried all I know to play with the ;;
[03:35:25] <bert__> there only exists 1 set of them, I have backspaced over them and re-typed them
[03:35:30] <bert__> nothing yet
[03:35:37] <jdh> and then added a CR?
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[03:36:16] <jdh> what comp?
[03:36:53] <bert__> yes. added CR
[03:37:18] <bert__> it is a comp Andy helped me with a few years ago.
[03:38:41] <bert__> Last time this worked I ended up re-typing it in a file that would work (simple example from docs)
[03:39:21] <bert__> that was the only way I got it to run. I really don't like work arounds, There must be something missing or added
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[03:40:17] <jdh> did the previous line end up with a cr-lf?
[03:41:25] <jdh> it's looking for LF anyway, not CR
[03:42:42] <bert__> ok, here is what I have just tried - all this is in gedit
[03:43:10] <bert__> copied the lines from the working file using select all
[03:43:42] <bert__> selected all in my file that wont work - and pasted
[03:43:46] <bert__> saved
[03:44:03] <bert__> doesn't work. everything is in the same dir
[03:44:40] <bert__> As for CR-LF, yes I know there is a difference, no I don't know how to make 1 or the other in gedit
[03:45:04] <jdh> I'd assume it does LF but, that's an assumption
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[03:47:50] <bert__> Thank you for your help jdh, riddle solved
[03:47:59] <jdh> what was it?
[03:48:50] <bert__> When saving, you have to make sure the "line ending" drop box is set for unix and not winblows
[03:49:16] <jdh> in gedit, in linux? it doesn't do that by default?
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[03:50:49] <bert__> yes, but that is where i was messing it up. Coping a file from my windoze box (with network access) over to my linux box. I use notepad++, so wasn't thinking about the line endings
[03:51:13] <bert__> so a file opened maybe as a .txt, defaults to windows line ending
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[03:54:30] <r00t4rd3d> skateboard wheel bearing pipe rollers: http://i.imgur.com/RFgkL7d.jpg
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[06:10:07] <LeelooMinai> http://i.imgur.com/4dWrzWP.jpg <- I am trying to figure out what screws are expected to be used with this part. the holes are 6.6mm... M6? THough 0.6mm extra seems like a loose fit to me - is it supposed to be like that?
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[06:59:29] <Loetmichel> mornin'
[07:39:02] * LeelooMinai ponders what size of screw for general CNC frame assembly. M6 M8? It's a 50cm by 50cm footprint fixed gantry frame
[07:39:17] <LeelooMinai> what size of screw to use*
[07:39:56] <LeelooMinai> Not sure if there are any rules for that
[07:46:58] <mrsun> LeelooMinai, isnt it for adjustability ?
[07:47:04] <mrsun> once you torque them down it shouldnt move :P
[07:47:22] <LeelooMinai> You mean my previous question?
[07:47:30] <mrsun> the hole size M6 6.6mm
[07:47:31] <mrsun> :P
[07:47:32] <LeelooMinai> Well, not sure... that's why I asked.
[07:47:50] <mrsun> as its all in mm i guess its metric so
[07:47:54] <mrsun> M6 would be closest :P
[07:48:01] <mrsun> else 1/4"
[07:48:05] <mrsun> 6.35mm
[07:48:06] <mrsun> closer but
[07:48:14] <mrsun> imperial :P
[07:48:23] <LeelooMinai> Well, I know that much:)
[07:48:40] * LeelooMinai looks around a bit worried
[07:48:50] <LeelooMinai> What is this channel about anyways? :)
[07:49:01] <mrsun> everything! :P
[07:49:22] <LeelooMinai> A lot of people, but it's always dead when I look in here - weird.
[07:49:28] <mrsun> hehe =)
[07:49:46] <mrsun> what timezone? :P
[07:49:46] * archivist denies being dead
[07:50:08] <LeelooMinai> I eam Canada east coast - it's 3:50 am here
[07:50:12] <mrsun> archivist is one of those who doesnt seem sleep
[07:50:24] <mrsun> almost always when you ask something he will answer .. whatever time ;P
[07:51:09] <LeelooMinai> I am building a CNC and was searching for mythical channel with a lot of people talking all the time about practical aspects of it... I guess I was naive:p
[07:51:52] <mrsun> LeelooMinai, this is it ... its not mythical but alot of people who knows a hell of alot =)
[07:52:19] <mrsun> except me then .. im just absorbing all others knowledge :P
[07:52:49] <LeelooMinai> Maybe I am few years late or something - everyone talked about everythink already and they just sit with gray beards and muse about deep things
[07:53:11] <archivist> hmm beard, yes
[07:53:24] <mrsun> talking about shopdogsam ? ;P
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[07:54:26] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[07:55:37] * LeelooMinai sighs
[07:55:52] <LeelooMinai> Oh well - I just hope I will not build some mechanical abomination
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[07:56:51] <archivist> I did that already :)
[07:57:23] <LeelooMinai> What? Forgot one of the axis? :p
[07:57:29] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/cnc/stage5/P2180014.JPG
[07:57:56] * LeelooMinai blinks
[07:58:33] <archivist> http://www.archivist.info/cnc/stage7/
[07:59:10] <archivist> made from "available parts"
[07:59:32] <LeelooMinai> I was just going to ask if you robbed some Japanese robotic car assembly plant:)
[08:00:20] <LeelooMinai> It looks very... random
[08:01:53] <archivist> the column is from a lathe, the spindle is its headstock
[08:02:39] <LeelooMinai> Hmm... I think I have a different plan:)
[08:02:46] <archivist> xy from a tool setters jig
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[08:04:05] <LeelooMinai> I am sure it's practical, but it looks like some mad-man creation:)
[08:05:54] <archivist> designed for small gear like parts http://gears.archivist.info/
[08:06:26] <mrsun> haha i love that mill archivist ... :P
[08:08:03] <LeelooMinai> Such a monster machine, for such tiny gears...
[08:09:01] <archivist> machines do need to be solid and rigid for metal cutting
[08:09:23] <LeelooMinai> Right, I know... but I think you took it to some new level:)
[08:10:15] <archivist> the column before I added the angle to it was far too flexible
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[08:11:52] <LeelooMinai> You mean that huge yellow thing in the middle was flexible?
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[08:15:15] <archivist> very
[08:16:49] <archivist> it was very poor in resisting twist
[08:17:13] <archivist> because it was just a channel section
[08:17:59] <LeelooMinai> Aha, well, that motor there seems kind of big
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[08:19:13] <Valen> ok at some point in the past I machined up a soldermask
[08:19:29] <Valen> I had a gerber from kicad
[08:19:30] <archivist> the motor is 1/2hp
[08:19:55] <Valen> and using only open source tools I cut a solder stencil out of an aluminium can
[08:20:04] <Valen> any ideas how the hell i did that?
[08:20:17] <Valen> pcb2gcode with a negative offset is not the answer it seems
[08:20:45] <LeelooMinai> Valen: You ask others how you did that? :)
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[08:26:45] <archivist> Valen, in your irc logs ?
[08:27:06] <Valen> could be, i know i boasted about it but i'm not sure if i detailed it lol
[08:28:14] <archivist> problem is how long ago too
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[08:29:35] <archivist> my bot logs #kicad and in here to the same table :)
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[11:28:25] <jthornton> if I have 4 inputs, one for each position is there a component that will output 1 - 4 based on the inputs?
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[11:40:04] <archivist> what should happen if two pins are set
[11:40:30] <jthornton> in this setup that is not possible
[11:40:45] <jthornton> there are 4 proxes for the turret and one target
[11:40:58] <jthornton> so as it rotates only one at a time can be on
[11:43:43] <jthornton> maybe I'm trying to solve the problem the wrong way too
[11:45:44] <archivist> dont you already have ladder logic for turning the turret
[11:46:17] <jthornton> yes, but mine has an absolute encoder and my logic is based on that
[11:47:02] <jthornton> I see a way to do this in ladder now
[11:47:04] <archivist> so the encoder already has your number in some form
[11:47:14] <jthornton> yes
[11:47:31] <archivist> dunno what you are really trying to do
[11:48:40] <jthornton> lift and spin turret until input matches tool request number then down and lock
[11:52:31] <jthornton> http://imagebin.org/251550
[11:52:39] <jthornton> I think this will do what I want
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[11:53:47] <archivist> just need to compare the right pin with request rather than make a number
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[12:42:20] <cncbasher> JT:see the component Arceye did for my toolchanger
[12:42:35] <cncbasher> and the modified iocontrol
[12:42:44] <jthornton> does yours have a prox for each station?
[12:42:53] <cncbasher> grey encoder
[12:43:09] <jthornton> ok this one has a prox for each station
[12:43:14] <cncbasher> 3 optos
[12:43:22] <jthornton> so I think it is simple to do in ladder
[12:43:28] <cncbasher> easy to modify i would have thought
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[12:44:14] <cncbasher> it also feeds back to axis via iocontrol so real position feedback based on encoder
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[13:42:08] <JT-Shop> thanks for the files, rather clever that ArcEye
[13:42:23] <JT-Shop> this one is very simple to do now that I think about it
[13:43:10] <jdh> you must 'know' more dw33bs than I do.
[13:43:20] <jdh> <wrong channel, probably>
[13:43:34] <JT-Shop> sounds plausable
[13:43:55] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: what ArcEye?
[13:44:06] <JT-Shop> on the forum
[13:44:10] <alex_joni> ah
[13:44:16] <JT-Shop> hi Alex
[13:44:25] <alex_joni> I see now it's not related to welding arc's ;)
[13:44:47] <JT-Shop> he may be I don't know :)
[13:44:55] <alex_joni> heh
[13:45:08] <alex_joni> sounds like a THC of some sorts :D
[13:45:24] <alex_joni> all well on your end?
[13:45:38] <JT-Shop> yes
[13:45:42] <JT-Shop> how about you?
[13:46:52] <alex_joni> yup, all's well
[13:47:21] <JT-Shop> did the user map die with the upgrade or other technical issue?
[13:49:11] <alex_joni> yup
[13:49:20] <alex_joni> the map component was for joomla 1.0
[13:49:31] <alex_joni> couldn't find a worthy replacement
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[13:52:08] <JT-Shop> thanks, I was just wondering
[14:03:57] <cradek> it was sure nice back when it worked.
[14:05:33] <cradek> my My Profile has my latitude and longitude. does it use it for anything?
[14:06:13] <cradek> the User List is ridiculous and useless
[14:07:30] <cradek> "show users within N miles from me" would be useful
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[14:19:49] <JT-Shop> I wrote a php mysql that generated a kml file that can be loaded with google maps
[14:21:28] <JT-Shop> http://maps.google.com/maps?q=http://gnipsel.com/spyder/test4.kml
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[14:42:49] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: now all is left is to integrate that with CB
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[14:44:23] * jthornton wonders how you do that?
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[14:56:55] <JT-Shop> I did read that if you have more than 200 data points in the kml file the load time starts to slow down
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[14:57:20] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: this looks promising: http://tech.reumer.net/Google-Maps/Documentation-of-plugin-Googlemap/integration-with-cb.html
[14:59:20] <alex_joni> but I can't look at it in depth right now
[14:59:38] <alex_joni> and we don't want to start hacking linuxcnc.org again, since cradek just made it secure a short while ago ;)
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[15:01:31] <JT-Shop> looks good
[15:01:48] <JT-Shop> alex_joni: have you ever ran the database sync?
[15:02:01] <JT-Shop> it reports a zillion records out of sync
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[15:14:58] <alex_joni> JT-Shop: which one?
[15:18:09] <alex_joni> CB Tools: Check Users Database?
[15:20:59] <JT-Shop> yes
[15:22:58] <alex_joni> I did run the sync a long time ago
[15:23:03] <alex_joni> but it shouldn't really matter
[15:23:15] <alex_joni> as we handle all logins/stuff from CB directly
[15:23:21] <alex_joni> so the CB database is what matters
[15:23:44] <JT-Shop> ok I didn't know that's why I asked while you were here
[15:32:45] <alex_joni> I'm always here :D
[15:37:13] <pcw_home> sounds kinda spooky, like the gospel of St T
[15:37:15] <pcw_home> split a piece of wood and I am there lift a stone and I am there
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[15:53:27] <jdh> St T uses screen(1) ?
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[16:08:01] <cradek> R2E4_: http://www.mattshaver.com/v2e3/index.htm
[16:08:16] <cradek> very early retrofit of a machine similar to ours
[16:08:46] <cradek> if I understand right, this was the first EMC retrofit outside NIST
[16:11:51] <L84Supper> wow, so old the pictures of it on the internets are fading
[16:12:18] <cradek> those are likely polaroids placed on a color scanner
[16:13:02] <cradek> there were a few years where we all used scanners before we had digital cameras :-)
[16:13:40] <L84Supper> I found an old one of mine in a box the other day
[16:13:56] <cradek> maybe not - each of those images has 652 as its largest dimension. might have been an actual camera?
[16:14:11] <cradek> I still regularly use a scanner
[16:14:44] <L84Supper> we have to for docs that require an actual signature
[16:15:10] <L84Supper> cradek: what year was that retrofit?
[16:15:14] <cradek> I use mine mostly in place of a photocopier
[16:15:29] <cradek> L84Supper: probably around 99? it was before my time.
[16:16:02] <cradek> (mshaver sometimes shows up here)
[16:16:12] <jdh> I've had to fax documents the last few weeks. It's amazingly annoying
[16:17:01] <cradek> I've lost that capability (from home) in the last two years - no landline anymore
[16:18:01] <jdh> I have a semi-landline. All the house phones got to a cell box thing
[16:19:35] <pcw_home> just need an acoustic coupler on your fax machine...
[16:20:34] <cradek> pcw_home: remember those terrible cordless phones? I used to use one on my acoustic modem. weird overlap of technologies.
[16:21:08] <pcw_home> That is funny
[16:21:37] <cradek> it wasn't round, so it didn't seal in the cups. very annoying.
[16:22:10] <cradek> oh I miss those old round handsets that you could actually hold with a shoulder comfortably
[16:22:31] <jdh> my first one was a big blocky thing with square speaker/mic and a long pull out antenna
[16:23:21] <cradek> yep that's the era. they worked so badly, but we thought they were cool. ha, just like today's phones!
[16:23:38] <pcw_home> I still have a couple big blocky Motorola cell phones
[16:24:18] <cradek> do you still have analog service in your area? that actually worked pretty well (for the couple hours your battery lasted...)
[16:24:41] <jdh> hasn't all AMPS been gone for years?
[16:25:03] <alex_joni> cradek: "A badly scanned picture showing the front of the mill with the keyboard and monitor supported by a monitor arm."
[16:25:13] <pcw_home> I think its gone here (I have not even tried turning them on for years)
[16:26:28] <alex_joni> cradek: I got one of these for christmas http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/yubztalk.png
[16:26:39] <L84Supper> I'd like to make a smart phone with a rotary dial :) just for fun and old time sake
[16:27:13] <alex_joni> it's pretty fun to walk down the street talking into that
[16:27:49] <L84Supper> make it look like a princess phone
[16:29:08] <cradek> alex_joni: that's silly, but it would be useful if you were forced to use a cell phone to do actual work at a desk
[16:29:24] <alex_joni> I use a handsfree for that
[16:29:46] <cradek> those are obnoxious to the caller and also everyone around you :-/
[16:29:52] <cradek> I hate them
[16:30:32] <alex_joni> why is that?
[16:31:11] <L84Supper> some of those people aren't actually on hands-free phones but are schizophrenic
[16:31:11] <cradek> they sound echoey, and most don't let you both talk at once
[16:31:21] <alex_joni> mine's this one: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/accessories/mw600/
[16:31:22] <cradek> and everyone around you hears the conversation
[16:31:43] <alex_joni> probably we're talking about different things then
[16:31:53] <cradek> oh you mean a headset type thingy
[16:32:13] <cradek> sorry, handsfree to me meant speakerphone
[16:32:15] <alex_joni> bluetooth thingie
[16:32:41] <alex_joni> ah, I don't get why they still allow those functions (speakerphone)
[16:32:46] <alex_joni> it's not really usable anyways
[16:33:10] <L84Supper> I asked about this other day, what application would you build on for 5-axis CAM? PyCAM or??
[16:33:20] <alex_joni> depends on the budget
[16:33:33] <cradek> what do you mean build?
[16:33:51] <archivist> L84Supper, did you see that OOM crash mentioned on the mailing list
[16:34:05] <L84Supper> cradek: expand it to support 5-axis
[16:34:37] <L84Supper> archivist: nope
[16:35:29] <cradek> I have no idea...
[16:37:27] <archivist> L84Supper, the thread was [Emc-users] potrace output to scalable gcode. Exists?
[16:38:12] <archivist> http://osdir.com/ml/emc-users-enhanced-machine-controller/2013-03/msg00329.html
[16:38:21] <archivist> 11 hours
[16:40:17] <alex_joni> L84Supper: ask in #cam
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[16:43:32] <L84Supper> http://code.google.com/p/opencamlib/ heeksCNC used those libs
[16:50:21] <alex_joni> this is interesting: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=6-Axis_Robot
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[17:18:17] <c60> morning all, anyone had any experience hooking up a pmdx-107 vfd spindle controller with linuxcnc, I'm using a pmdx-126 too.
[17:18:57] <c60> I've managed to get it working in test mode, but it only briefly runs when I hit the stop button in linuxcnc, doesn't start when I hit start
[17:22:06] <DJ9DJ> re
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[17:50:39] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[17:53:24] <L84Supper> alex_joni: thanks I hadn't noticed the whole section on robots before http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/free-cad/index.php?title=Robot_Workbench
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[18:19:21] <tjb1> Might be a Haas Service Engineer :D
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[18:21:03] <IchGuckLive> O.O
[18:21:51] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: i worked trou a truckload of sheeds with the powermax 45
[18:22:05] <IchGuckLive> used 25 nozzels
[18:22:15] <tjb1> Wow
[18:22:28] <Loetmichel> hmmm, has anyone this PC in use for linuxCNC? have some issues with jitter and low performance when usinf vnc to supervise the mill.. -> http://www.pollin.de/shop/dt/MTM5ODkyOTk-/Computer_und_Zubehoer/Hardware/Komplett_Rechner_Barebones/Desktop_PC_FUJITSU_SIEMENS_ESPRIMO_E5600_XP_COA.html
[18:22:46] <tjb1> IchGuckLive: Do you have height control?
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[18:23:04] <Loetmichel> ... would it be a wise idea to get an Athlon 64 x2 3800 cpu for it?
[18:23:16] <Loetmichel> or better invest in a new bigger PC?
[18:23:25] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: i use P5915
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[18:24:19] <IchGuckLive> http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fujitsu-Esprimo-P5915-Intel-Celeron-440-2-0-GHz-2-GB-RAM-160-GB-HDD-/350696742364?pt=DE_Technik_Computer_Peripherieger%C3%A4te_PC_Systeme&hash=item51a7279ddc
[18:24:34] <IchGuckLive> 55Euroas
[18:25:10] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: no i dont i use M200 to get height regulated at some places
[18:25:27] <tjb1> are you setting pierce height?
[18:25:52] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: i start plasma at Z3.8 as in the datasheet F500 to Z1.3 at P1 sec
[18:26:04] <tjb1> What is m200?
[18:26:07] <Loetmichel> IchGuckLive: that should help me in which way to determine if the jitter problems will be gone with a bigger dualcore cpu on mine?
[18:26:28] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: i got 16k of jitter
[18:26:54] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: m200 is my Zero Z G92
[18:27:35] <tjb1> Loetmichel: The Intel D525MW does pretty good with linuxcnc
[18:27:43] <IchGuckLive> detecting on G38 set the parameter G92 in my case Z-3
[18:29:00] <tjb1> Have you spoken with Jim Colt?
[18:29:08] <tjb1> That seems like a bunch of nozzles
[18:29:32] <IchGuckLive> 120 sheeds 240 sqm of material
[18:30:44] <IchGuckLive> tjb1: did you experiment with nozzel 1mm
[18:30:56] <IchGuckLive> the industrial ones have 2.2
[18:31:08] <tjb1> nozzle 1mm?
[18:31:20] <IchGuckLive> for pricise small cut
[18:31:36] <tjb1> height or hole diameter?
[18:31:51] <IchGuckLive> hole diameter
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[18:32:13] <IchGuckLive> Loetmichel: querry ?
[18:32:16] <Connor> tjb1: the Intel D525MW is our of production...
[18:32:40] <tjb1> ? You can still buy it
[18:32:52] <Connor> Where? Only place I found was Ebay.
[18:32:58] <tjb1> IchGuckLive: I didnt know you could buy different sized nozzles
[18:33:06] <IchGuckLive> yes
[18:33:36] <IchGuckLive> but i got a cnc lathe with 2 turrets B)
[18:34:01] <tjb1> Amazon has them Connor
[18:34:13] <Loetmichel> tjb1: i have the system already running
[18:34:25] <Connor> Looks like all the stock got dumped to Ebay and non mainstream distributors..
[18:34:26] <tjb1> Well not really "Amazon" but they arent much more than I paid for it
[18:34:37] <Loetmichel> just a little much jitter (7k++) and some performanve issues with webcam and vnc ;-)
[18:34:39] <tjb1> Did they say why they killed it?
[18:34:42] <IchGuckLive> 525 in germany at reichelt.de
[18:34:57] <Connor> Not really..
[18:35:08] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14133
[18:35:15] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14136
[18:35:20] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14139
[18:35:25] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14142
[18:36:14] <Connor> Loetmichel: Where did you get the extrusion of the table top ?
[18:36:34] <Loetmichel> Connor: chinese machine
[18:36:43] <Connor> Oh, you ddn't make that one ?
[18:36:54] <Connor> I'm looking for that type of table top to replace my MDF one...
[18:36:58] <Loetmichel> complete with spindle , 4th axis and inverter
[18:37:29] <tjb1> That your thumb Loetmichel ?
[18:38:07] <Loetmichel> http://www.ebay.de/itm/321061312512 <- this machine
[18:38:15] <Loetmichel> tjb1: hmm?
[18:38:26] <tjb1> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11136
[18:38:35] <Loetmichel> yeah
[18:38:43] <Loetmichel> little accident with the bandsaw
[18:38:54] <Loetmichel> nothing serious
[18:41:32] <Loetmichel> this thumb has seen worse... 3,0mm 2 flute TC mill bit, 24krpm... one second not "fully aware" -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=2958
[18:42:32] <Loetmichel> nice 3.0mm hole through the nail, thumb, bone and out ...
[18:42:42] <Loetmichel> didnt even hurt ;-)
[18:42:46] <Loetmichel> (at first ;-)
[18:43:06] <tjb1> your thumb trying to kill itself?
[18:43:47] <Loetmichel> tjb1: left thumb, simply wromg time wrong place... every time ;-)
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[18:49:54] <cradek> eeeee
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[18:53:37] <Loetmichel> sorry, cradek, should have flagged that as "gory" :-)
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[18:54:51] <cradek> eh it wasn't gory at all.
[18:55:22] <cradek> hope it was a fast drill cycle so it pulled back out...
[18:56:06] <Loetmichel> ... i tend to be a little careless with myself... one time my apprentice came into the workshop. sees me, draws his cellphone: *KLICK* " just for the book: 'how to NOT do it!'" ;-)
[18:56:36] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12244
[18:56:38] shdhdfghd is now known as asdfasd
[18:57:44] <Loetmichel> ... he then helped me to extiguish the trashcan (below my knees) where i hat thrown 2 sheets of alcohol-soaked towels ;)
[19:00:56] <Loetmichel> no, it wasnt drill cycle, it was my owb lazyness.
[19:01:01] <Loetmichel> own
[19:01:34] <L84Supper> Loetmichel: do you work with any of the color laser printers for Tempest?
[19:01:36] <Loetmichel> machin was in par position, i attempted to change the workpiece and was too lazy to stop the spindle
[19:01:50] <Loetmichel> l49: yes
[19:02:05] <Loetmichel> L84Supper: yes
[19:02:10] <Loetmichel> sole dell, some HP
[19:02:12] <Loetmichel> some
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[19:02:36] <L84Supper> Loetmichel: any pref for which is more dependable?
[19:03:09] <Loetmichel> i am afraid: when we get them on the BSI-list they are already EOL ;-)
[19:03:39] <L84Supper> Loetmichel: are any LED vs laser?
[19:03:46] <Loetmichel> last reliable and easy to shield model i had in my grasp wa a HP cp3525
[19:03:55] <Loetmichel> was
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[19:04:20] <Loetmichel> i had no led printer in my fingers.. (knowingly)
[19:05:09] <archivist> OKI did a LED iirc, used a grin lens
[19:06:02] <L84Supper> OKI, Kyocera, Fuji and Xerox have the high density heads I'm interested in
[19:07:30] <archivist> we borrowed the lens for another printer project :)
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[19:25:38] <c60> hrm, anyone have ideas how to setup pwm/spindle control?
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[19:27:55] <r00t4rd3d> with what would be a good starter
[19:31:34] <r00t4rd3d> c60, what controller do you have?
[19:31:53] <L84Supper> c60: let us know what hardware you are using (boards, motors etc etc)
[19:32:14] <r00t4rd3d> he has a pcb and some flux
[19:32:24] <r00t4rd3d> couple zip ties
[19:32:31] <r00t4rd3d> bring it all together
[19:33:09] <c60> I'm using a pmdx-126 motherboard and a pmdx-107 for the pwm- speed control, the 107 has a test function which works and changes the speed, so wiring is hooked up right. If I turn the spindle on via linuxcnc nothing happens, but when you hit stop it turns on briefly and stops,
[19:33:36] <tjtr33> steves_logging, hmmm how to notify steve stallings when only his logger is here? well... i read you made an EDM 'pulser' is it available for purchase/open source?
[19:33:37] <c60> I'm just trying to force the spindle-pwm to be positive using absolute but not having much success
[19:33:41] <tjtr33> speaking of pmdx :)
[19:34:01] <r00t4rd3d> steve responds to email
[19:35:30] <tjtr33> r00t4rd3d, all i find is [email protected] blah you got address?
[19:35:50] <r00t4rd3d> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html
[19:36:29] <r00t4rd3d> i think i got it from the domain register info
[19:36:43] <tjtr33> k thx
[19:37:07] <r00t4rd3d> c60, googling linuxcnc hal spindle control will probably help you if no one is around
[19:37:51] <r00t4rd3d> http://linuxcnc.org/lucid/emc2/index.php/italian/forum/24-hal-components/3721-spindle-control
[19:38:06] <r00t4rd3d> c60, did you set up a hal component for spindle control?
[19:38:19] <r00t4rd3d> i >think< thats what you need to do
[19:38:37] <c60> r00t4rd3d: I have that in my .hal from using stepconf setup,
[19:39:52] <c60> the thing that's stumping me is if I turn the spindle on, and make sure it's not at 0 rpm, nothing happens until I hit stop then it starts and stops just as quickly
[19:40:19] <r00t4rd3d> something in your config isnt right
[19:40:37] <r00t4rd3d> have you looked through the ini and hal files ?
[19:41:14] <c60> r00t4rd3d: ya something's not right, I've been looking through the hal file, havn't really checked the ini yet
[19:42:03] <c60> I can hear the relay click on and off when I hit the spindle on and off buttons
[19:42:24] <c60> and again, when I hit stop it turns on briefly and stops again.
[19:43:10] <c60> I kept reading about the pwm needing to be forced absolute, but i'm not sure how old that info is, and I am having problems implementing it
[19:43:46] <r00t4rd3d> cradek pcw_home archivist
[19:44:34] <r00t4rd3d> waiting for pcw to come alive is probably your best bet
[19:45:17] <c60> I might have found something, brb
[19:45:20] <tjtr33> does halmeter of halscope show the signal act as you expect?
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[19:47:06] <r00t4rd3d> i need to do something with hal so I can learn that shit
[19:47:52] <r00t4rd3d> open file, jog, start
[19:48:02] <r00t4rd3d> thats my linuxcnc routine
[19:48:43] <r00t4rd3d> my spindle control is my thumb
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[19:49:41] <chopper791> Hello everyone, I have a quick question (I hope). When my Z axis makes a direction change the traverse of X and Y almost come to a stop. When Z axis is not doing anything the X and Y will move along in rapid speed no problem.
[19:49:51] <chopper791> Any clues to what this could be
[19:50:11] <r00t4rd3d> are all your motors the same?
[19:50:26] <r00t4rd3d> drawing the same power
[19:50:43] <chopper791> Yes
[19:51:18] <r00t4rd3d> are they new?
[19:51:35] <chopper791> Yes all brand new
[19:53:19] <chopper791> Is there a mode that I could have set EMC2 in to make it slow down like this? I know that if I use a G64 the speeds will slow down to keep within parameters
[19:53:31] <chopper791> This happens even without G64
[19:55:19] <r00t4rd3d> turn down your acceleration and velocity
[19:56:02] <chopper791> Ok.... How will that change anything(Just for my knowledge)?
[19:56:11] <r00t4rd3d> just what i am reading
[19:56:18] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.cnczone.com/forums/linuxcnc_formerly_emc2/149811-x-axis_stalling_linuxcnc.html
[19:56:33] <r00t4rd3d> post #3
[19:56:37] <r00t4rd3d> from cncbasher
[19:56:38] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[19:57:26] <r00t4rd3d> cut your accel and vel numbers in half and see if it still does it
[19:57:33] <chopper791> This poster is loosing steps. I am remaining dead nuts with no step lose issues.
[19:58:05] <r00t4rd3d> how big is your power supply?
[19:58:45] <chopper791> If I run the X and Z no problem , Y and Z no problem, X and Y then the taverse slows when Z is added to the mix.
[19:58:52] <chopper791> Power supply is 40v 10a
[19:59:30] <chopper791> The drivers will consume no more then 7.2amps
[20:00:05] <chopper791> total
[20:00:10] <chopper791> combined
[20:00:49] <r00t4rd3d> did you try turning down the speeds/
[20:00:50] <r00t4rd3d> ?
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[20:02:07] <r00t4rd3d> ive only ever had weird motor issues when I had my numbers set too high
[20:02:28] <chopper791> I will give it a try
[20:03:14] <r00t4rd3d> rerun stepconf and open your existing config and just try cutting the acceleration and velocity numbers in half and see if it still stalls
[20:03:54] <cpresser> if you run something like "G64 P0.1; G0 X0 Y0 Z0; G0 X100 Y100 Z-10; G0 X200 Y200 Z0;" does it stall at x,y=100?
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[20:07:11] <r00t4rd3d> finally someone who can help him more then me and he is afk :/
[20:07:26] <c60> That didn't work, hal scope looks to be reporting all positive pwm that changes as I alter spindle speed,
[20:07:47] <c60> should halui.spindle.start change ?
[20:09:00] <c60> motion.spindle-on changes to true, but halui.spindle.start stays false
[20:11:30] <tjtr33> start simple, what does halui.spindle.is-on show?
[20:13:50] <c60> It changes to true
[20:14:50] <tjtr33> next monitor halui.spindle.start and halui.spindle.stop while you ask for it to be on, then off
[20:16:22] <c60> ok, those do nothing.
[20:16:26] <c60> they stay at false
[20:17:23] <tjtr33> do you have them dependent on other signals in your hal? are they connect to physical or gui btns?
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[20:18:30] <c60> Not that I know of, I have a spindle gui in the manual control interface with a stop a direction button and +/- buttons.
[20:20:40] <tjtr33> is your config a supplied config? maybe you posted it already ( or very close to a supplied config )?
[20:21:39] <c60> I did post it, It's pretty close to a supplied config, generated from stepconf, the only thing I added was to do a touchoff and a joystick control, which was awhile ago and works fine
[20:22:31] <tjtr33> something like net spindle-enable motion.spindle-on => parport.0.pin-14-out ? for the enable
[20:22:52] <tjtr33> and does halmeter/scope AND and a meter agree?
[20:24:09] <tjtr33> in the above the amplifier's enable would be physically wired to the pport pin 14.
[20:24:12] <c60> net spindle-cw => partport.0.pin-14-out
[20:24:17] <c60> is what's in mine
[20:24:46] <tjtr33> what about an enable? is you spindle amp enabled by a pin?
[20:25:11] <c60> spindle-on => parport.0.pin-17.out
[20:25:18] <tjtr33> (you could have it hot wired but that'd be scarey)
[20:25:39] <tjtr33> sorry on != enable enable sez 'ready' and on sez 'go'
[20:26:41] <c60> There's also a net spindle-on <= motion.spindle-on => pwmgen.0.enable
[20:27:11] <c60> got an idea, hold on.
[20:27:25] <tjtr33> yes that enables the pulse stream that creates differnt speeds, but amp enable is another, ok
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[20:29:09] <c60> I have a spindle-on => parport.0.pin-17-out
[20:29:28] <tjtr33> and hows it look on halmeter/scope?
[20:29:30] <c60> a spindle-pwm => parport.pin-16-out
[20:29:41] <c60> and a spindle-cw => partport.pin-14-out
[20:30:05] <tjtr33> # connect "spindle on" motion controller pin to a physical pin
[20:30:06] <tjtr33> net spindle-on motion.spindle-on => parport.0.pin-09-out
[20:30:20] <tjtr33> ^^ example cfg supplied with stepper
[20:31:23] <tjtr33> take a look in the stepper config ( i'm assuming, sorry, but you seem to be missing some bits )
[20:31:58] <L84Supper> tjtr33: http://www.ebay.com/itm/ELOX-EDM-Model-12-3816-Ram-Sinker-w-Wizard-150-Controller-Astra-200D-Elox-Power-/110803455519?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19cc668e1f
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[20:32:08] <tjtr33> you said "motion.spindle-on changes to true" but not what its connected to
[20:32:15] <L84Supper> are those Elox units worth keeping alive?
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[20:33:31] <tjtr33> L84Supper, gawd an astra, they're beasts, but run forever, thats actually a split supply, runs 2 machines, easy to find operators
[20:34:15] <tjtr33> has a tiny o-scope on each half ("" watch for grass to grow") very lo rez
[20:34:49] <L84Supper> 70's tech
[20:35:58] <tjtr33> interesting fill technique, air pressure pushed into base raises N lbs of oil into tank.
[20:36:31] <c60> does "net spindle-on <= motion.spindle-on => pwmgen.0.enable" mean put the motion.spindle-on value into both pwmgen and spindle-on?
[20:36:35] <L84Supper> I run into lots of Elox units around here
[20:36:55] <L84Supper> also Mitsubishi http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mitsubishi-Wire-EDM-FX-1-Machine-/221204161572?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3380cba424 or similar
[20:37:03] <c60> and with the net spindle-on => partport.0.pin-17-out end up taking the value from spindle-on and outputting it on pin 17?
[20:38:59] <tjtr33> c60 well, yes but i'd think you'd want net "somePhysPin <= motion.spindle-on => pwmgen.0.enable" and connect somePhysPin to the enable on yuur amp
[20:39:16] <tjtr33> hmm, you added to it...
[20:39:58] <tjtr33> yes, i'd agree, and p17 should be wired to the amp enable
[20:40:54] <c60> how does halui.spindle.start relate to spindle-on
[20:41:52] <tjtr33> after the device is enabled then you can ask it to run. ( arm weapon, then trigger it (
[20:44:17] <tjtr33> if i say 'after the device is ON then you can ask it to run' you can see why ON is a bad term, and enabled is proper, ( but on is used :(
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[20:45:11] <c60> this pmdx-107 is using 3 pins, 14- for direction, 16 - for pwm, and 17 can be used as a charge pump signal dip switch controled, which orignally I had it turned off, its now on, but made no difference.
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[20:45:58] <c60> I changed hal to have net spindle-on => parport.0.pin-17-out but it made no difference either
[20:46:50] <c60> the part that is still throwing me for a loop is if the rpm is >100 then when I hit stop, it turns on briefly and stops, so it's like it's getting the right signals when I hit stop,
[20:48:16] <andypugh> c60: spindle-on is a "Signal" as is the first thing after _every_ net command. You can actually choose any name you want for a signal.
[20:48:29] <c60> also I hear the relay's clicking on/off when I hit start/stop but halui.spindle.start is always false
[20:48:33] <tjtr33> aint no enable on that thing. are the jumpers suited for your vfd & does the relay respond?
[20:49:15] <andypugh> c60: Sounds like you need to invert the parport "enable" pin.
[20:49:16] <c60> wireing works fine, it has a button to put just the device in test mode and the vfd spins up my spindle all good.
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[20:50:28] <c60> the board can also function where it looks at the pwm, so no pwm, then off, and if there is a pwm, then on.
[20:51:13] <tjtr33> have you changed anything since this conversation began? i understand the standalone debug test is ok
[20:51:58] <c60> not really, well I change something, it doesn't work, i change it back.
[20:52:24] <c60> hmm, something in this manual about it needed a pwm freq between 25hz and 1000hz to be considered valid
[20:52:47] <c60> a 0% or 100% is considered a stop command.
[20:53:48] <andypugh> Ah, in that case perhaps the scales are messed up and 1 rpm = full scale = off.
[20:53:50] <tjtr33> ok, try a midrange PWM, then theres just 2 signals in that pdf, (3rd optional) do pin 14 and 16 respond as you expect?
[20:54:02] <andypugh> what is the pwmgen scale set to?
[20:54:56] <c60> 14 and 16 respond as expected, pwmgen scale is 20000, I have freq at 1000 right now, and offset is 0, dither-pwm is true
[20:56:01] <JT-Shop> I have a 24vdc input and output and need to count the input to some preset value like 100 then turn on the output for a second and reset the counter. The transition may be as fast as every 1/2 second so slow
[20:56:02] <tjtr33> " it needed a pwm freq between 25hz and 1000hz to be considered valid" try 500
[20:56:23] <JT-Shop> is there any single cheap chip that can do this?
[20:56:41] <c60> the freq was 50, but I just changed it, still no dice.
[20:56:43] <tjtr33> pic/avr
[20:56:51] <c60> I just tried 500 too, same thing,
[20:56:53] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Pity it's 100, not 128, or you could use a binary counter.
[20:57:19] <JT-Shop> I have to be able to set the count after calibration... it's for a tipping bucket rain gauge
[20:58:03] <tjtr33> c60 ok, when you say p16 acts as expected AND 500 doesnt work, does halscope show 500hz on p16?
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[20:59:02] <JT-Shop> http://cq.cx/ladder.pl
[20:59:06] <andypugh> JT-Shop: http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0ca0/0900766b80ca0e3a.pdf
[20:59:37] <tjtr33> c60 and does a voltmeter agree ( 2.5V or 5V )
[21:00:01] <JT-Shop> andypugh: thanks
[21:00:29] <tjtr33> arduino is cheap to some ppl
[21:01:10] <andypugh> That chip is 20p. But by the time you have put in on a PCB and wrapped it in logic, the Arduino might be cheaper.
[21:02:00] <tjtr33> and can always be used for something else when you find the simpler/cheaper solution
[21:02:18] <JT-Shop> I have an Arduino to test with
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[21:02:43] <c60> How do I know if the halscope is showing 500hz, and how can I get it to pause the graph, it keeps appearing and disappearing,
[21:03:17] <tjtr33> JT-Shop, it has a delay_ms() built in, but not 24V tolerance w/o opto or such
[21:03:42] <tjtr33> c60, theres a pause btn in upper right
[21:03:51] <tjtr33> maybe its called stop,
[21:03:54] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, what you makin?
[21:04:04] <JT-Shop> tipping bucket rain gauge
[21:04:05] <Tom_itx> oh the selector for your turret?
[21:04:40] <tjtr33> wow like the japanese bamboo tumbler
[21:05:08] <JT-Shop> dunno
[21:07:24] <c60> tjtr33: Upper right where? nothing labeled as such
[21:08:15] <c60> I measured the voltage coming out of the pmdx107 which should be 0-10v depending on the pwm, and it matches based on what I set spindle speed at,
[21:08:16] <tjtr33> c60 hold on gotta fire up lcnc * ha;scope
[21:09:15] <tjtr33> c60 thats enuf, if the vom follows the spindle pot 0-10v
[21:10:33] <tjtr33> and it was top right, box labeled "run mode' , a checkbutton labled 'stop'
[21:11:28] <c60> hmm, well I gotta go, I'll have to pick this up tomorrow.
[21:12:11] <tjtr33> ok, check p14 if p16 seems ok, hi or low not open
[21:13:24] <c60> yup, p14 follows hi, then low when stoped
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[21:14:37] <tjtr33> then checkk againt table 1 in section 2.4
[21:14:47] <andypugh> C60 did you try inverting the enable pin as I suggested some time ago?
[21:14:47] <tjtr33> best o luck!
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[21:15:22] <andypugh> If it's an opto-enable then it is quite likely to be pull-down for on.
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[21:16:53] <c60> andypugh: ya I tried inverting, same deal,
[21:17:24] <andypugh> That is strange then.
[21:17:34] <andypugh> Is the VFD common to breakout 0V?
[21:17:37] <c60> I tried changing dip switch #3 as per section 2.4 but didn't change behavior
[21:18:23] <andypugh> (Bear in mind I have no idea what hardware you are talking about)
[21:19:15] <c60> andypugh: that's helpful, the wiring is correct since it works from the board's test mode,
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[21:21:16] <tjtr33> the wiring that is correct is the wiring that does not use the control side wires( linuxcnc side). in test mode it ignores the control side wiring
[21:21:30] <c60> ok, I'll try tomorrows,
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[21:21:49] <c60> tjtr33: yes that's true, but all the wiring is done by the pmdx-126 motherboard, it's all prewired.
[21:22:37] <tjtr33> ok, is some of that wiring spindle specific?
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[21:23:08] <tjtr33> from linuxcnc to the pmdx-126 mobo?
[21:23:20] <c60> wierd, if I play with the spindle override, when I cross to zero, the spindle turns on momentarily and then it stops
[21:23:37] <c60> and I can hear the relay's clicking
[21:23:55] <c60> so I'm guessing it has to do with the pwm signal,
[21:24:02] <c60> fresh brain tomorrow will help,
[21:24:06] <c60> thanks for all your helps
[21:24:17] <tjtr33> you can scope or meter a pwm
[21:24:38] <c60> looking does not a see-er make ;)
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[21:24:53] <tjtr33> its a tail its a trunk
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[21:32:25] <tjtr33> I'm awaiting 6 ac servos, the prints show UVW (power) and SD+ SD- for encoder.
[21:32:26] <tjtr33> I guess i'll circumvent the serial format puzzle and dig inside. Are Hall sensors the norm?
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[21:38:49] <tjtr33> i hope there enough room to drag the encoder and hall wires out, its a 6dof puma , and space for even a few wires will be tricky
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[21:56:02] <R2E4_away> Hi guys
[21:56:12] <tjb1> hello
[21:56:22] <R2E4_away> Anyone seen skunkworks around?
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[21:57:24] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:09:07] <kwallace> gene77: I saw your name on a message when I searched for RTAI MIDI. Are you using Linux with MIDI? I'm thinking about getting a MIDI keyboard, but I want to work out some details first.
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[22:24:30] <tjtr33> http://www.copleycontrols.com/motion/pdf/encoder-guide.pdf lists different serial data formats for encoders
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[23:10:05] <andypugh> tjtr33: Disappointingly light on actual data formats, it seems?
[23:10:41] <tjtr33> yes, but hope springs eternal
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[23:13:07] <tjtr33> i'm now trying to find where the hall effects would wire in. the 8i20 doesnt want them, seems theyre just gpio presented to bldc comp.
[23:13:08] <tjtr33> the 8i20 doesnt want them, seems theyre just gpio presented to bldc comp.
[23:13:19] <tjtr33> sorry
[23:15:49] <tjtr33> andypugh, though they do say the names of the protocols, like 'absolute a' <-- a wonderful thing to google for ;)
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[23:17:20] <r00t4rd3d> So I just made this guy a sign, "Als House, Als Rules" and I put Mickey Mouse on both sides giving the middle finger.
[23:17:41] <r00t4rd3d> in oak
[23:17:59] <tjtr33> add "Als feet are sane " if he's German
[23:18:18] <r00t4rd3d> i dont think he is german
[23:18:25] <r00t4rd3d> and the sign is done
[23:19:46] <andypugh> tjtr33: Yes, the 8i20 just does what it is told, it's a truly dumb drive.
[23:19:53] <andypugh> All the magic happens in HAL.
[23:20:22] <Tom_itx> voo doo magic
[23:20:28] <andypugh> It's working well for me though.
[23:20:30] <tjtr33> hey thx for all work you've put into this ac drive bldc 8i20 stuff
[23:21:24] <andypugh> Have you seen http://youtu.be/haO5ZJq-Y3c ? That's an 8i20 and resolvers.
[23:21:30] <tjtr33> it occurs to me i might not have to thread wires thru the joints, i could go outside ( borg )
[23:21:38] <tjtr33> oh thx, will look
[23:22:31] <tjtr33> sounds great, i remember the b4 vid
[23:22:50] <tjtr33> sounds great hell, sound pro
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