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[00:58:23] <Jymmm> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrqqD_Tsy4Q
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[01:53:27] <PCW> For some reason that led me to KPA videos
[01:57:00] <PCW> "Its time to settle final accounts with the US Imperalists"
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[02:59:25] <Valen> could somebody take a look at this
http://pastebin.com/cbJ84v8e
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[03:00:28] <Valen> its a super simple file but for some reason it is rapiding to the origin of G54 before it then rapids again to the actual start of the cut
[03:00:39] <Valen> generally through the job and the bed and the floor
[03:03:45] <Valen> running 2.6
[03:03:58] <ReadError> is that from HSM ?
[03:04:30] <Valen> ?
[03:06:20] <Valen> ReadError, ?
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[06:09:37] <Loetmichel> mornin'
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[06:30:59] <t12> hum
[06:31:09] <t12> how have i fucked up if in grinding my lathe jaws
[06:31:12] <t12> the appear slightly conical
[06:31:27] <t12> they indicate very concentric
[06:32:59] <archivist> how did you support them during grinding
[06:33:07] <t12> backed them out into an id alum ring
[06:33:13] <t12> tight enough so that the ring was distorted
[06:33:42] <t12> however i did that on the tip of the jaws
[06:33:51] <Loetmichel> that was the error
[06:33:59] <t12> so maybe they all moved inwards if theres slop in the scroll?
[06:34:01] <Loetmichel> should have done that at the base
[06:34:03] <archivist> wrong way to mimic normal tightening forces and jaw rocking due to wear
[06:34:40] <t12> should i just move the clamp as close to the scroll as possible
[06:34:45] <t12> some other way to secure it?
[06:35:15] <archivist> I make 3 little spacers so I tighten the jaws onto them leaving the inner clear
[06:35:48] <t12> lemme picture
[06:36:10] <Loetmichel> even better would be to drill 3 holes in the jws on the outermost (deepest) step and than fir a ring to that with plain bolts and CLOSING the chuck to get it tight
[06:36:19] <Loetmichel> s/fir/fit
[06:36:31] <archivist> I close the chuck with my method
[06:36:46] <t12> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/0jlnt76hjpj67z1/EMEVKCQKlw
[06:36:47] <archivist> no drilling needed
[06:37:02] <Loetmichel> archivist: thats possible, too
[06:39:10] <mrsun> hmm, the force when tightening outwards isnt the preasure points of the jaws
[06:39:14] <mrsun> :P
[06:40:01] <t12> archivist: spacers that fit in the contact point between the edges of the jaws?
[06:40:08] <t12> s/point/plane
[06:40:29] <archivist> yes the side angle
[06:41:53] <t12> https://www.dropbox.com/sc/fojfu30z17o4jfz/ueHibTX7t1
[06:41:54] <t12> like that?
[06:42:10] <t12> do you have to get them matched in thickness or just use something soft that will distort enough?
[06:42:41] <archivist> I make matched
[06:43:24] <t12> ok i will try that
[06:43:28] <archivist> usually by working with 3 parts cut from the same bit of metal
[06:43:43] <t12> i think i'm only a few thou conical so i didnt mess up that bad
[06:43:44] <t12> heh
[06:45:33] <archivist> the conical amount shows wear in the jaws and chuck
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[06:46:09] <t12> will that wear cause problems elsewhere
[06:46:24] <t12> like diffnt conical error at different diamaters or whatnot
[06:47:18] <archivist> it could show up as variable quality of grip and concentricity
[06:48:27] <archivist> look for signs of over tightening too
[06:48:46] <t12> what are those signs?
[06:48:53] <t12> i'm sure the chuck has been much abused over the years
[06:49:04] <t12> at some point do you just get a new chuck
[06:50:20] <archivist> 3 jaw chucks are never perfect, just learn to live with what you have
[06:51:51] <t12> is there a way to get around the additive error of chuck mount -> test bar -> tailstock alignment
[06:52:26] <archivist> just got firefox restarted, yes link that picture but maybe with larger bits like
http://www.archivist.info/openoffice/t12.jpeg
[06:52:50] <t12> ok yeah
[06:52:51] <t12> that makes sense
[06:52:57] <t12> that will be straightforward to build
[06:54:18] <archivist> tailstock/headstock alignment is another can of worms
[06:57:01] <t12> yeah :(
[06:57:16] <t12> my understanding is that you align the tailstock axis with a testbar axis
[06:57:34] <t12> i guess you could cheat and align the tailstock to the spindle without chuck
[06:57:39] <t12> and eat the bed error?
[06:59:10] <archivist> t12,
http://www.archivist.info/cnc/schlesinger/fig0019.jpg
[06:59:54] <archivist> I should scan some more of the methods from that book one day
[07:00:16] <t12> treat it like shaft alignment?
[07:01:15] <t12> i guess you can just hand adjust the test bar absurdly until it indicates concentric as possible where youre indicating?
[07:01:32] <archivist> there are two errors, which do you have?
[07:01:58] <t12> or turn down something arbitrary near the tailstock, dead center and indicate from there?
[07:02:15] <archivist> is the headstock axis in line with the bed as well as the tailtstock error
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[07:02:26] <t12> unknown
[07:03:22] <t12> what's normally the reference axis in a lathe
[07:03:25] <t12> the bed's?
[07:03:37] <t12> spindles seems hardest to adjust?
[07:04:04] <archivist> well is the bed straight, worn or twisted, all have to be tested to get anywhere close
[07:04:28] <archivist> has the bed been levelled
[07:05:44] <t12> hum
[07:05:52] <t12> not worn (by eye)
[07:06:00] <t12> i need to check/adjust level
[07:06:36] <t12> straight, twisted would be indicate from apron to bed v's?
[07:07:22] <archivist> test bar in the morse taper and dti on the saddle should show some bed faults after you have levelled
[07:13:14] <t12> spindle taper? tailstock taper?
[07:13:28] <t12> thanks for all the help btw
[07:13:32] <t12> i clearly dont know what i'm doing :)
[07:14:01] <archivist> measuring a worn lathe can be fun
[07:14:13] <t12> its unclear how to interpert this lathe
[07:14:19] <t12> it's sat in a university so that means
[07:14:25] <t12> mostly unused, and when used likley badly
[07:14:27] <archivist> I wish I could afford the toys to do it properly
[07:15:07] <archivist> I know both my lathes in the garage are worn due to use
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[07:18:24] <archivist> I can feel a ridge on the V on the southbend, probably 10 to 15 thou, has the saddle worn as much, therefore the saddle could be 20-30 thou below in the most worn part
[07:20:00] <t12> sounds like i need more tooling to really dial this in
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[07:37:51] <t12> lol
[07:38:01] <t12> dont tell me this thing has a morse 4 1/2 spindle
[07:38:43] <archivist> there are other tapers,
[07:40:26] <t12> it is indeed 4 1/2
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[07:54:00] <DJ9DJ> moin
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[08:26:24] <tjtr33> this mechanism and kins are interesting, may resolve soem gantry probs, may not be accurate, dunno, but IS clever,
http://multimechatronics.com/images/uploads/courses/h_Bot/H-Bot%20Web%20Site%20Slides%205-11-2011.pdf
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[11:39:40] <R2E4> mornin all
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[12:08:10] <jthornton> morning
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[14:20:16] <Aero-Tec> hello
[14:20:31] <Aero-Tec> I seem to have a problem with setting tool table
[14:20:51] <Aero-Tec> what is the trick to getting it right?
[14:21:28] <Aero-Tec> I do touch off and select tool table, but it is not entered right
[14:21:48] <Aero-Tec> not sure why
[14:21:50] <cradek> explain
[14:22:16] <Aero-Tec> I use tool 1 as the main reference tool
[14:22:47] <Aero-Tec> so I zero tool one and then load the next tool
[14:22:55] <cradek> wait
[14:23:01] <cradek> what do you mean you zero tool one
[14:23:04] <Aero-Tec> do tool change
[14:23:07] <cradek> what exactly are you doing
[14:23:23] <Aero-Tec> I have no home switches
[14:23:58] <Aero-Tec> so I do a test cut with tool 1 and use that to set zero for the machine
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[14:24:33] <Aero-Tec> well the user off sets
[14:24:42] <Aero-Tec> or part offsets
[14:25:33] <Aero-Tec> when that is set I then load the new tool and do a touch off with new tool and select tool table
[14:26:08] <Aero-Tec> seams to me there is also some other thing I have to do or set for this to work right
[14:26:21] <cradek> I do not understand exactly what you do when you "use that to set zero for the machine"
[14:26:38] <cradek> you're not being precise enough for us to understand and tell what you're doing
[14:26:43] <Aero-Tec> been awhile, not sure if memory is recalling things the right way
[14:26:57] <cradek> ok you're not sure what you did?
[14:27:18] <Aero-Tec> when I turn the machine on
[14:27:20] <cradek> maybe go back and try again and make careful notes of what buttons you push, what numbers you enter, etc. --- then someone else can try it and see what's going wrong
[14:28:33] <Aero-Tec> I load some scrap stock
[14:29:33] <Aero-Tec> I do a light cut in both x and z and enter the measurements in the touch off box
[14:30:10] <Aero-Tec> using tool 1.......z is easy, it is 0 all the time
[14:30:43] <cradek> do you home before you do this?
[14:30:55] <Aero-Tec> but x has to be measured and the number entered into the touch off box
[14:31:00] <Aero-Tec> yes
[14:31:21] <Aero-Tec> but home is some random place
[14:32:17] <Aero-Tec> when I have set user off set
[14:32:23] <cradek> what kind of machine is it? do you have encoder index?
[14:32:47] <Aero-Tec> I then use that to set the new tools up
[14:32:52] <Aero-Tec> lathe
[14:33:13] <Aero-Tec> what is encoder index?
[14:33:24] <cradek> do you have encoders? or is it steppers?
[14:33:35] <Aero-Tec> I have a spindle index
[14:33:49] <Aero-Tec> servo with emcoders
[14:33:56] <Aero-Tec> no index
[14:34:04] <cradek> your encoders don't have index channels?
[14:34:11] <Aero-Tec> no
[14:34:36] <cradek> darn. with index you could have perfect homing, even without switches
[14:34:39] <Aero-Tec> the spindle is only index
[14:34:54] <Aero-Tec> how?
[14:35:10] <Aero-Tec> I am wanting to get new incoders
[14:35:29] <cradek> index-only homing: jog to some reference marks and issue home from there, it just seeks the index
[14:35:30] <Aero-Tec> need to update for more inputs
[14:35:44] <Aero-Tec> cool
[14:35:45] <cradek> I use that on a rotary table
[14:36:04] <cradek> no easy way to put a switch, but there's an index pulse every few degrees
[14:36:04] <Aero-Tec> so you get close and it does the reat
[14:36:23] <Aero-Tec> rest
[14:36:32] <cradek> yes you just have to position it between two known index positions
[14:37:15] <cradek> even without index, I suggest you make reference marks and home to them by jogging there manually. Then you can have the protection of soft limits, and all your saved offsets will be close
[14:37:25] <Aero-Tec> if you used index and switch you would be perfect
[14:37:59] <cradek> sure, a switch makes homing easier because you don't have to manually position the machine, but you can get perfect (to one encoder pulse) homing without switches
[14:38:33] <cradek> if you can mark your screws too somehow, a sort of "manual index" you can get pretty reproducable homing, all manually
[14:38:48] <JT-Shop> Aero-Tec: have you seen this?
http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/g-code/index.html
[14:38:49] <cradek> I've done this on a machine with handwheels
[14:39:15] <Aero-Tec> so if I wanted touch off to be referenced to a user offset and not home how would I do that
[14:39:23] <Aero-Tec> that could be the problem
[14:40:28] <cradek> Aero-Tec: well you can do what you want, but I suspect you are making a mistake when you do it.
[14:41:13] <cradek> you can set tool offset of tool 1 to all zero, and use that to touch off to G54, and then with G54 active touch off to tool table the rest of the tools
[14:41:15] <Aero-Tec> for right now I have little choice
[14:41:17] <R2E4> hi cradek
[14:41:51] <Aero-Tec> G54?
[14:42:05] <Aero-Tec> will have to look that up
[14:43:09] <Aero-Tec> Verify that Machine > Touch off to fixture is selected.
[14:43:13] <cradek> when you use the touch off window BE VERY CAREFUL that you are sending your offsets to the right place
[14:43:21] <Aero-Tec> I think that is the missing thing
[14:43:38] <cradek> you want tool 1's offsets to be all zero, and the rest of the tools will have offsets that represent how much different from tool 1 they are
[14:43:40] <Loetmichel> *grrr* i deleted one G00z2.0 to much -> workpiece -> trash /*grrr*
[14:44:50] <Aero-Tec> I hate when that happens
[14:45:20] <Aero-Tec> missing or misplace decimal
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[14:45:49] <Aero-Tec> there are so may ways to mess up and make a mess
[14:46:48] <Aero-Tec> being dyslexic adds some fun to things as well
[14:48:33] <Aero-Tec> cradek: yes, 100% right
[14:48:53] <jdh> I misplaced a decimal straight into my vise
[14:49:36] <Aero-Tec> easy do
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[15:01:16] <Aero-Tec> cradek: yes G54, feeling brain dead, time for more coffee or something
[15:01:43] <cradek> did you figure it out?
[15:01:54] <Aero-Tec> Verify that Machine > Touch off to fixture is selected.
[15:02:03] <Aero-Tec> I think that is the missing thing
[15:02:22] <Aero-Tec> will have to check and make sure it was set
[15:02:22] <cradek> I would not bet on it :-)
[15:03:06] <Aero-Tec> want to set tool offset of tool 1 to all zero, and use that to touch off to G54, and then with G54 active touch off to tool table the rest of the tools
[15:03:08] <cradek> in fact if you're not homing repeatably, I think you do NOT want to enable that
[15:03:44] <Aero-Tec> open to suggestions
[15:03:57] <cradek> I bet you have unwanted offsets on T1 and are not ending up with G54 set correctly
[15:04:32] <cradek> look at your tool table and see. maybe pastebin it to share here.
[15:04:35] <Aero-Tec> how would be the best way to one tool one to set the rest of the tools?
[15:05:02] <Aero-Tec> the tool table is good
[15:05:13] <Aero-Tec> just need to get the right numbers into it
[15:05:29] <cradek> haha
[15:05:38] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/7KESvT0.jpg
[15:05:45] <r00t4rd3d> im a photoshop master
[15:06:17] <r00t4rd3d> orig
http://i.imgur.com/4Sj6eec.jpg
[15:06:22] <Aero-Tec> lol
[15:07:12] <cradek> the poor north korean people :-(
[15:07:38] <pcw_home> What a mess
[15:08:11] <r00t4rd3d> i say we nuke em all
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[15:08:39] <cradek> good idea. that'll teach all those people who didn't even elect the brat
[15:08:40] <pcw_home> Send Dennis Rodman back
[15:08:56] <Aero-Tec> Machine > Touch off to workpiece
[15:09:12] <r00t4rd3d> yeah send rodman back right before we drop the nukes
[15:09:22] <Aero-Tec> would this be better if wanting all touch off to use G54?
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[15:09:43] <r00t4rd3d> dude what does that have to do with north korea?
[15:09:54] <r00t4rd3d> :)
[15:10:40] <Aero-Tec> hey nuke them, but I need to find out how to get my tool table fixed
[15:10:57] <r00t4rd3d> first world problems
[15:10:58] <cradek> Aero-Tec: pastebin your tool table
[15:11:31] <pcw_home> I suspect this sword rattling is not good for tourism (The DPRK website has lots of nice tourist info)
[15:12:29] <Loetmichel> sooo, next 3 aluminium casings...
[15:12:57] <cradek> pcw_home: I suspect it's not good for anything except a little boy's ego
[15:13:10] <Loetmichel> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14148 ...
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14151 (one for the trash)
[15:15:23] <cradek> oops the middle one is not quite right...
[15:16:12] <Aero-Tec> http://pastebin.com/FbB6K8PW
[15:16:21] <Loetmichel> like i said: deleted one G00z2 to much
[15:16:26] <Loetmichel> :-)
[15:16:52] <Aero-Tec> like I said the tool table is fine, the numbers in it are not
[15:17:09] <Aero-Tec> need to get the right numbers in the right place
[15:17:28] <cradek> dude
[15:17:33] <cradek> the numbers tell us what you've done
[15:17:46] <cradek> getting the numbers right will happen after you get your process figured out
[15:17:49] <jdh> loetmichel: is that homemade or chinese?
[15:18:07] <DJ9DJ> homemade by chinese ;)
[15:18:10] <Loetmichel> chinese
[15:19:37] <Aero-Tec> all the tool setting are right except T9
[15:20:10] <Aero-Tec> I have done this before and got it right, but that time I had to mess around to get it right as well
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[15:20:30] <Aero-Tec> want to know what I am doing wrong
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[15:21:05] <cradek> rest assured we'd all like to know that too!
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[15:32:57] <tjb1> Tom_itx: You here?
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[16:15:09] <Loetmichel> sooo, first of 10 pSUs done... 9 to follow... ->
http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14154 ... tomorrow ;-)
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[16:38:34] <tjb1> Anyone have a laser cutter?
[16:40:06] <archivist> more than one, ask the real questions
[16:40:39] <tjb1> I need something cut
[16:41:44] <Connor> Loetmichel: Your making your own PSUs?
[16:41:46] <Tom_itx> anyone in your locale with a laser cutter willing to cut some parts for you
[16:41:49] <tjb1> Roughly a 250mm equilateral triangle out of 3/16-1/4 acrylic
[16:42:07] <tjb1> We have one at school but the teacher cant figure out how to get it to cut and it doesnt have an exhaust yet
[16:42:19] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[16:42:20] <Tom_itx> so cut it on a table saw
[16:42:40] <tjb1> It's not just a triangle
[16:42:46] <tjb1> It has a lot of other stuff in it
[16:42:53] <Tom_itx> Roughly a 250mm equilateral triangle
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[16:43:02] <cpresser> cutting that will only take about 1-2min per piece.
[16:43:02] <tjb1> Yeah, for quick estimate
[16:43:13] <Connor> Loetmichel: Was it you who was asking about Dragon Flies? Never found out why you needed it translated... :)
[16:43:16] <cpresser> (with a 60-80W laser)
[16:43:18] <tjb1> It has etching, corners cut, holes
[16:43:22] <Tom_itx> so you get the estimate then change the order?
[16:43:50] <tjb1> No, I am saying the rough size of the piece.
[16:44:04] <r00t4rd3d> put a laser on your cnc
[16:44:13] <Tom_itx> cnc it
[16:44:47] <tjb1> A laser is cnc
[16:44:48] <r00t4rd3d> send me the dxf and 100 bucks
[16:45:56] <Tom_itx> send me the dxf and 99 bucks
[16:46:07] <Connor> ROFL
[16:46:49] * cpresser will do it for 80+shipping :)
[16:47:01] <Tom_itx> which comes out to 100?
[16:47:04] <tjb1> Does this include the price of acrylic?
[16:47:11] <r00t4rd3d> mine does
[16:47:14] <r00t4rd3d> and shipping
[16:47:16] <Tom_itx> i can get acrylic
[16:47:41] <r00t4rd3d> ill even draw goatse on the box
[16:47:49] <Tom_itx> i won't
[16:47:51] <Tom_itx> :)
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[16:48:30] <r00t4rd3d> tjb1, you need just 1 ?
[16:48:36] <tjb1> yes
[16:49:04] <r00t4rd3d> 250mm triangle?
[16:49:19] <tjb1> About that shape…with other features
[16:49:45] <r00t4rd3d> you gonna make the dxf?
[16:49:49] <tjb1> Yes
[16:50:24] <r00t4rd3d> ill do it for nothing if you pay for everything
[16:50:34] <tjb1> Where do you live?
[16:50:35] <r00t4rd3d> shipping, plastic
[16:50:36] <r00t4rd3d> ny
[16:50:53] <r00t4rd3d> 8 hours from you
[16:51:14] <tjb1> What are you doing this on?
[16:51:19] <r00t4rd3d> cnc router
[16:52:11] <tjb1> ok
[16:52:20] <tjb1> Ill see what I can come up with
[16:52:26] <tjb1> What size cutter?
[16:52:32] <Connor> tjb1: Don't you have a CNC yet ?
[16:52:37] <r00t4rd3d> matters what you want in it
[16:52:37] <tjb1> Just plasma
[16:53:20] <r00t4rd3d> i have .0625 .125 .25 endmills
[16:53:37] <r00t4rd3d> .0625 tapered ballnose
[16:54:41] <r00t4rd3d> and other various engraving bits
[16:54:49] <r00t4rd3d> v type stuff
[16:54:57] <tjb1> no ball?
[16:55:04] <tjb1> oh nevermind
[16:55:29] <r00t4rd3d> i have a .125 ball too but i never used it
[16:55:35] <r00t4rd3d> not sure how well it works
[16:55:42] <r00t4rd3d> in plastic, probably good
[16:55:42] <cpresser> commercial service:
http://www.customlasercutting.com/info/pricing
[16:56:03] <Aero-Tec> any luck with my tool table problem?
[16:56:21] <Aero-Tec> is g92 a factor?
[16:56:26] <Connor> tjb1: So, Slap a Bosh Colt on it.. and go for it.. :)
[16:56:43] <tjb1> I have a 611 dewalt
[16:56:44] <Aero-Tec> one just need to make sure it is set to zero I would think
[16:56:45] <r00t4rd3d> he is scared
[16:57:39] <tjb1> I havent found a way to mount the spoilboard…I will get it
[16:57:42] <r00t4rd3d> lowes sells acrylic sheets too i think
[16:58:01] <tjb1> I have to go pick up material to cut on plasma, cya
[16:58:49] <r00t4rd3d> i need to go cut a sign
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[17:01:31] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/OG3ZPEH.jpg
[17:01:49] <Connor> r00t4rd3d: What kinds of bits are you using for signs ?
[17:02:04] <r00t4rd3d> v grooves
[17:02:14] <Connor> What size ?
[17:02:17] <r00t4rd3d> 90 degree, 1/2 cut
[17:02:35] <Connor> you doing single stoke fonts?
[17:03:25] <r00t4rd3d> rarely ever, truetype
[17:03:41] <Connor> What CAM you using ?
[17:03:45] <r00t4rd3d> aspire
[17:04:15] <Connor> I've done some minor engraving with my mill.. Thinking about making a sign and some plaques with my router...
[17:04:54] <r00t4rd3d> http://www.ebay.com/itm/CMT-815-127-11-90-Degree-V-Grooving-Router-Bit-1-4-Inch-Shank-1-2-Inch-Cutting-/350729506436?pt=Routers_Bits&hash=item51a91b8e84
[17:05:04] <r00t4rd3d> get something like that
[17:05:18] <r00t4rd3d> then i use just a .25 endmill for the profile/cutout.
[17:06:13] <Connor> how big of a work envelope is your machine ?
[17:06:40] <r00t4rd3d> 12x25
[17:07:02] <Connor> mine is 12x18.
[17:07:06] <r00t4rd3d> newb
[17:07:22] <Connor> You making money with it ?
[17:07:30] <r00t4rd3d> yeah all the time
[17:07:38] <JT-Shop> carp, the E45 M1-M Pro doesn't support 512Mb memory chips and that's all I have...
[17:07:52] <r00t4rd3d> my table is 36 but my router bit can only move over 25 inches
[17:08:12] <Connor> http://www.ivdc.com/cnc/cnc13.JPG
[17:08:24] <r00t4rd3d> i can split a dxf in half though and slide a board forward and do longer
[17:09:18] <JT-Shop> do you make registration holes in the board?
[17:10:03] <r00t4rd3d> nah I just mark it with a pencil
[17:10:58] <r00t4rd3d> Connor, since this pic ive changed my gantry linear carriages to the extended version and redid my z axis using the carriages i took off my gantry
[17:10:59] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/Sc92POM.jpg
[17:11:16] <Connor> I built mine as a multipurpose machine.. Was going to use it for 3d printing.. pcb engraving and routing.. but.. I think I've come to the realization that it's going to be hard to convert it back and forth from printing to routing.. way too much cleanup..
[17:11:50] <Connor> okay, Yea, I've seen that one before...
[17:11:59] <Connor> where you getting your work from ?
[17:12:18] <Connor> I want to make some extra $$ but.. not make it a full time job.. as I have one already... :)
[17:12:29] <r00t4rd3d> word of mouth and craigslist
[17:12:58] <JT-Shop> r00t4rd3d: cool machine
[17:13:01] <Connor> how much Z travel you have ?
[17:13:25] <r00t4rd3d> in that pic about 12 inches
[17:13:40] <r00t4rd3d> now its like 5-6
[17:14:27] <Connor> Mine was suppose to have 6".. but I forgot to take into account the bull nut length.. not to mention.. 6" would have made it too tall to fit inside the enclosure..
[17:14:36] <r00t4rd3d> and its only that much cause i like raising it up to change my bit
[17:15:14] <r00t4rd3d> i really only need 4 inches max
[17:16:19] <Connor> Aspire handles the V-carving for the fonts okay ?
[17:16:30] <r00t4rd3d> yeah
[17:16:43] <r00t4rd3d> effortless
[17:17:16] <Connor> I use CamBam.. only way it handles vcarve is single stroke fonts..
[17:17:36] <r00t4rd3d> i got a bunch of them but dont ever use them
[17:18:08] <r00t4rd3d> I have 8,455 Fonts Installed.
[17:18:13] <r00t4rd3d> lol
[17:18:25] <Connor> I used truetype-tracer when I did the Dog Tags.. that worked really well.. except.. for that small.. it made allot of uneeded movements.. because you couldn't even see the detail.
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[17:32:26] <Connor> one mistake I made on my router.. I didn't make it so it was easy to adjust.. I didn't realize how accurate I need to be on the Z for some of the stuff I wanted to do.
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[17:47:53] <c60> Anyone here use Enroute with linuxcnc? just trying to figure out what the best host for export is.
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[17:55:33] <IchGuckLive> hi all
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[18:04:26] <Aero-Tec> looks like I did the tool table right
[18:04:44] <Aero-Tec> z working fine for z for tool 9
[18:05:12] <Aero-Tec> but for some strange reason the x is not right
[18:09:46] <Aero-Tec> when running a program EMC seems to be in dia mode
[18:10:41] <Aero-Tec> but in the MDI it seems to be in radius mode
[18:10:49] <Aero-Tec> is that posable?
[18:11:12] <Aero-Tec> no G7 in the Gcode
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[18:12:13] <Aero-Tec> when the Gcode does a tool change it looks like dia mode yet in the MDI the tool change is radius mode
[18:13:39] <Aero-Tec> just added G8 to the INI string in the Gcode
[18:13:48] <Aero-Tec> will see if that works
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[18:39:04] <IchGuckLive> is the wiki side down
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[18:54:30] <andypugh> Aero-Tec: cradek: You can get to 0.001" just by aligning scribed marks. So that can make a pretty good index. If you couldn't judge the alignment of two sribed marks to 0.001" then vernier calipers wouldn't work.
[18:57:14] <cradek> but vernier calipers don't really work to .001"... :-)
[18:57:22] <cradek> nevertheless, point taken
[18:57:36] <cradek> he should definitely home to marks, if for no other reason than to get soft limits
[18:57:45] <archivist> and you dont compare just two lines on a vernier
[18:58:01] <skunkworks> you make a 'best guess' ;)
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[18:59:32] <archivist> I must take pictures of a "vernier" I have here, it is digital with pegs
[18:59:40] <andypugh> archivist: Oh, but you do. All a vernier does is give you a pair of lines to compare for every thou.
[19:00:23] <archivist> you look for the best in a bunch of lines
[19:01:03] <andypugh> Yes, so you pick the one that is exactly aligned out of the ones that aren't.
[19:01:09] <archivist> I have some verniers with magnifiers
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[19:01:48] <andypugh> I had a horrible one on a microscope. It was calibrated in 50ths of a mm.
[19:01:50] <archivist> you hope you pick the right pair
[19:03:18] <andypugh> You can read a tape measure to 0.01". Just not any arbitrary length to that precision.
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[19:05:10] <andypugh> I used to have a tape measure that read to 0.001". It was a pi-tape with a vernier on the end. The factor of 3-and-a-bit helped.
[19:07:47] <andypugh> Like
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NOS-USA-PI-28-200mm-Outside-Diameter-Tape-4-Lathe-/390301037981 only cheaper.
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[19:17:57] <syyl> i am getting close to finish the ressurection of my tool&cutter grinder :D
[19:18:32] <syyl> i also get a not-to-bad finish, when using it as a surface grinder..
[19:18:40] <syyl> one happy guy ;)
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[19:19:31] <syyl> as bought
[19:19:32] <syyl> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/Reime%20RS150/IMAG0179.jpg
[19:20:01] <syyl> close-to-done
[19:20:02] <syyl> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24396704/Reime%20RS150/IMG_1689.JPG
[19:20:54] <Jymmm> JT-Shop: jthornton
https://www.youtube.com/embed/REP4S0uqEOc
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[19:46:06] <Aero-Tec> the G8 will not work, T1 is fine yet T9 is way out to lunch
[19:46:28] <Aero-Tec> there was no G7 or G8 in the code
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[19:54:31] <Aero-Tec> so what would make the MDI work fine yet running Gcode be out to lunch
[19:54:41] <Aero-Tec> I must be missing something
[19:55:24] <Aero-Tec> the program ends with T9
[19:56:04] <Aero-Tec> and the X DRO reading is out to lunch
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[19:56:48] <Aero-Tec> yet going into the MDI and doing a tool change to T9 changes the reading yet the program says T9 is active
[19:59:22] <cradek> do you mean you are loading the tool with T9 M6 G43?
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[20:02:14] <Aero-Tec> T9 M6 in Gcode
[20:02:25] <Aero-Tec> T9 M6 G43 in MDI
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[20:05:18] <Aero-Tec> do you need the G43 in a Gcode program?
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[20:22:18] <Aero-Tec> G43 fixed the problem
[20:22:47] <Aero-Tec> thanks for the help
[20:23:16] <Aero-Tec> Mach Gcode converting
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[20:34:35] <tjb1> Got some stainless to cut on the plasma :D
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[22:03:19] <DJ9DJ> gn8
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[22:17:20] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Do you use sheetcam on ubuntu?
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[22:49:58] <r00t4rd3d> nother sign down
[22:53:27] <r00t4rd3d> designed, cut, painted and polished in 2 hours
[22:56:29] <r00t4rd3d> I need an air brush
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[23:30:26] <JT-Shop> tjb1 yes
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[23:34:23] <r00t4rd3d> Prostate Exam Simulator
[23:34:25] <r00t4rd3d> http://i.imgur.com/PDuz5YR.jpg
[23:34:57] <r00t4rd3d> Looks like it may be ran off a Arduino
[23:36:11] <r00t4rd3d> probably providing sensor input
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[23:41:04] <JT-Shop> went for a ride on my bike and got it all muddy and broke the seat and discovered how much out of shape I am after a winter of eating too much
[23:41:35] <r00t4rd3d> pedal?
[23:42:02] <JT-Shop> aye a Giant trail bike
[23:46:56] <andypugh> Good job you didn't go for the Dwarf trail bke then.
[23:49:16] <JT-Shop> I would have squashed it LOL
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[23:50:34] <JT-Shop> this is like mine
http://www.giant-bicycles.com/en-us/bikes/model/revel.1/11523/55890/
[23:50:57] <JT-Shop> an entry level bike for fat old farts
[23:51:16] <JT-Shop> I have the blue one
[23:52:08] <tjb1> JT-Shop: Did you see my earlier message?
[23:52:20] <JT-Shop> yep did you see my reply?
[23:53:02] <tjb1> no
[23:53:09] <Tom_itx> <JT-Shop> tjb1 yes
[23:53:16] <JT-Shop> <JT-Shop> tjb1 yes
[23:53:20] <JT-Shop> lol
[23:53:26] <tjb1> Does it remember settings with a license?
[23:53:33] <tjb1> Or is that a bug with the linux version
[23:53:37] <JT-Shop> I don't have a clue
[23:53:52] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: you make a pic programmer?
[23:53:55] <tjb1> Every time I start it I have to set all the settings and pick the post processor, etc
[23:54:01] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, no just avr
[23:54:10] <Tom_itx> i have a pic programmer though
[23:54:10] <tjb1> By the way Tom_itx, they aren't happy in #reprap
[23:54:11] <JT-Shop> I don't have that problem
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[23:54:27] <Tom_itx> tjb1, why?
[23:54:29] <tjb1> Hopefully it's because I didnt add the license yet
[23:54:36] <tjb1> Logging
[23:54:39] <Tom_itx> i don't care
[23:54:41] <andypugh> JT-Shop: Alright, but it lacks that certain something. See if you can spot it in this one:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c7/GasGas_EC200_2000.jpg
[23:54:50] <JT-Shop> http://cq.cx/ladder.pl
[23:55:03] <JT-Shop> hmmm a motor?
[23:55:06] <Tom_itx> tjb1, it's a public forum and the topic says it may be logged
[23:55:08] <andypugh> Aye
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[23:55:32] <tjb1> Actually the topic did say no publically accessible logging
[23:55:38] <Tom_itx> or at least it did
[23:55:49] <JT-Shop> I sold my XL200 and GZ250 to make room for the blue spyder
[23:56:16] <Tom_itx> tjb1, i don't know why they're so uptight about it
[23:56:28] <tjb1> Well they were all mad about it earlier
[23:56:34] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: did you see the ladder program for avr and pic?
[23:56:39] <Tom_itx> yes
[23:56:55] <Tom_itx> tjb1, today?
[23:56:57] <JT-Shop> what did you think about that?
[23:57:05] <tjb1> yes
[23:57:06] <andypugh> I find myself thinking about changing my design so I can make it out of the material I have available. But that doesn't seem right. (it won't be as good if I use 3" dia to suit my bar, rather than 3.125"
[23:57:10] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, i probably wouldn't use it
[23:57:23] <JT-Shop> just do straight programming?
[23:57:28] <Tom_itx> i do
[23:58:15] <andypugh> I have 4 days to fill over easter. I was going to visit my parents, so haven't got any stock in. I can't visit them, because their village is totally inaccessible due to snow. They had a snow drift up to the chimney pot on saturday.
[23:58:18] <JT-Shop> my application is very simple, I need to count an input to some number like 100 then turn on an output
[23:58:22] <tjb1> Tom_itx: 10:38:26
[23:58:22] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, why... are you going to do simething with an avr?
[23:58:47] <Tom_itx> tjb1, i removed it for a while and got complaints that it was gone too
[23:58:54] <Tom_itx> so i put it back online
[23:58:57] <JT-Shop> Tom_itx: yes I need a simple counter
[23:59:01] <JT-Shop> with one output
[23:59:07] <Tom_itx> how many input?
[23:59:13] <JT-Shop> one
[23:59:14] <Tom_itx> use a tiny 10
[23:59:17] <Tom_itx> 6pin chip
[23:59:21] <Tom_itx> 4 io
[23:59:25] <Tom_itx> 16bit timer
[23:59:43] <JT-Shop> your programmer does that?
[23:59:51] <Tom_itx> yes
[23:59:58] <Tom_itx> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/temp/tiny/tinyTPI1.jpg
