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[00:16:44] <PetefromTn> Well gotta go meet a customer here talk later guys. Peace
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[00:21:58] <Tom_itx> ok one more try then i'm calling it
[00:22:40] <RyanS> home brewing!?
[00:22:52] <Tom_itx> xilinx
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[00:24:30] <RyanS> I really hope I don't kill myself home distilling... I'm starting to get paranoid about heavy metal poisoning (I didn't use lead solder) or methanol
[00:25:25] <RyanS> TiG welding stainless steel I'm told is food safe, but what if mistakes were made
[00:25:47] <PCW> Tom_itx: I can guide you through a GUI build
[00:26:12] <Tom_itx> i'm reinstalling xilnix making sure i have the newly acquired license
[00:26:27] <Tom_itx> i looked at the file it discovered and it was for 9.2
[00:26:27] <CaptHindsight> RyanS: did you use any lead solder?
[00:26:42] <Tom_itx> but i'd love a guided tour :)
[00:27:09] <CaptHindsight> RyanS: where would the heavy metals come from?
[00:27:12] <Tom_itx> i installed the imbedded part of the package not the full blown one
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[00:27:28] <Tom_itx> should be enough for this
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[00:28:04] <PCW> If you can load the hm2_epp project and you have solved the license issues I can guide you
[00:28:16] <CaptHindsight> RyanS: plus in our day we had lead pipes for water supply, many old inner city homes still do
[00:28:29] <Tom_itx> i just loaded it and copied my vhd over to that same directory
[00:28:41] <Tom_itx> haven't added it to the project yet
[00:29:00] <PCW> you need to add it to the library
[00:29:15] <atom1> i won't know about the license issues until it builds
[00:29:29] <atom1> ok how do i add it?
[00:30:16] <atom1> project->add source ?
[00:30:55] <PCW> no
[00:31:06] <RyanS> CaptHindsight Im certain I chose the right solder and TIG welding is routinely used in the food industry (although the guy didn't backpurge the welds)
[00:31:38] <atom1> also, i'd like to be able to build just one at a time instead of the whole list of em
[00:32:02] <PCW> you should have a library pane in the left middle of the navigator page
[00:32:29] <RyanS> There is also some copper to stainless braze joints (no idea what sort of filler rod they use)
[00:33:00] <atom1> source libraries?
[00:33:04] <atom1> the tab was hidden
[00:33:37] <PCW> there should be three tabs, design, libraries, and files
[00:33:48] <atom1> yep
[00:34:03] <PCW> so select libraries
[00:34:04] <atom1> the libraries is open
[00:34:21] <PCW> and click on work
[00:34:32] <atom1> did that
[00:34:37] <atom1> the list is open
[00:34:56] <PCW> so now right click and select add source
[00:35:16] <atom1> on the file i want added i presume
[00:35:20] <PCW> and add your new pin file
[00:35:32] <atom1> ok
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[00:35:51] <PCW> now chose the design pane
[00:35:57] <RyanS> CaptHindsight I think the issue is one thing to use it for water but a whole 'nother thing to boil ethanol
[00:36:42] <atom1> i got red x's on the file
[00:37:19] <atom1> i think it's looking at my previous project where i added it in the wrong place
[00:37:24] <PCW> what file?
[00:37:43] <PCW> Oh it wont let you add it twice
[00:37:47] <atom1> PIN_SVST2_4_7I47SS_48.vhd
[00:37:54] <PCW> its probably OK
[00:38:09] <atom1> i added it to the lib pane
[00:38:11] <atom1> carry on
[00:38:21] <PCW> ok so select the design pane
[00:38:25] <atom1> back on the design pane
[00:38:44] <atom1> red x on Implement Design
[00:39:06] <atom1> yellow ! on Synthesize - XST
[00:39:48] <PCW> the top level file should have a little green pawn shop symbol by it
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[00:41:17] <atom1> ok i think it is
[00:41:37] <PCW> OK double click on that file
[00:42:03] <atom1> TopEPPHostMot2 - Behavioral..... ?
[00:42:12] <atom1> i did
[00:43:13] <PCW> now scroll down in the file and clone one of the pinput lines
[00:43:24] <PCW> pinout
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[00:43:50] <PCW> (and comment out the currently selected one)
[00:43:52] <atom1> --use work.PIN_SVUA4_8_48.all;
[00:43:54] <atom1> like that?
[00:43:58] <atom1> only use mine
[00:44:05] <PCW> yes
[00:44:32] <PCW> (all are commented out except the active one)
[00:44:58] <atom1> ok i think i speldt it right
[00:45:32] <PCW> your current spelling gives me doubt :-)
[00:45:41] <atom1> use work.PIN_SVST2_4_7I47SS_48.all;
[00:46:03] <PCW> ok save (control s)
[00:46:09] <atom1> did
[00:47:00] <PCW> should be good to go so try double clicking on implement design
[00:47:37] <atom1> ok it's churning
[00:47:48] <atom1> where does the output files go?
[00:48:10] <atom1> i used the default install settings
[00:48:23] <atom1> synthesize -xts failed
[00:48:27] <atom1> but it's still going
[00:48:51] <atom1> TopEPPHostMot2.stx is missing.
[00:49:02] <atom1> warning
[00:49:24] <atom1> because the synthesize failed
[00:49:31] <RyanS> I'm going to design a desktop mill with linear slides and ballscrews, ATC (probably with a table toolrack for simplicity). I have a couple of mechanical engineering students to help with the project. Probably use a G540
[00:50:22] <RyanS> No idea how to implement the spindle
[00:50:41] <PCW> ok most likely causes of synthesis failure is a typo/syntax error in the source
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[00:51:34] <PCW> there should be an error in the console log at the bottom (you may have to scroll up a bit)
[00:51:37] <atom1> not due to the file being added previously in the wrong place?
[00:51:52] <PCW> whats is the reported error?
[00:52:09] <atom1> line 1124: Index value <1> is not in Range of array <PWMGenOutA>.
[00:52:32] <PCW> OK so thats your fault :-)
[00:52:33] <atom1> maybe one of those numbers is wrong in the structure
[00:52:45] <atom1> i removed one of the pwms
[00:53:10] <PCW> yes if you only have one pwmgen, its pins had better all be for pwmgen 0
[00:53:52] <atom1> i'll check in a sec. gotta take care of something here
[01:00:12] <atom1> k, trying agani
[01:00:14] <atom1> again*
[01:00:26] <atom1> changed the 01 to 00
[01:00:27] <atom1> :)
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[01:00:46] <atom1> still failed though
[01:01:02] <PCW> error now?
[01:01:14] <atom1> Xst:774 - "/home/tom/linuxcnc/mesa/7i43/CONFIGS/HOSTMOT2/EPPHM2/SOURCE/oneofndecode.vhd" line 80: Constant must have a value : 'dec'.
[01:02:18] <atom1> with warnings above it about null array
[01:03:35] <PCW> Hmm maybe a name error in the pin file
[01:03:58] <PCW> try compiling a standard pin file
[01:04:33] <PCW> with a standard pin file I should say
[01:04:34] <atom1> i'll use the standard 7i47_48 one
[01:05:12] <atom1> and i'll post my pin file
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[01:07:58] <atom1> http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/bitfiles/
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[01:08:53] <atom1> error using the standard pin file
[01:09:05] <atom1> ConstraintSystem:58 - Constraint <NET "*clkmed*" TNM_NET = "clkmed";>
[01:09:06] <atom1> [7i43.ucf(85)]: NET "*clkmed*" does not match any design objects.
[01:09:43] <PCW> OK but it synthesized OK
[01:10:23] <atom1> no red X by it now but a yellow !
[01:10:38] <atom1> red X on implement design now
[01:11:42] <atom1> so yes i think so
[01:12:07] <PCW> you can sidestep that error by building a current pinfile that has sserial included
[01:14:21] <atom1> i don't see any in the list in the file
[01:15:21] <PCW> any with ss
[01:15:33] <atom1> i can't see any
[01:15:41] * atom1 looks closer
[01:16:33] <atom1> SV SP and SI
[01:17:02] <atom1> what is SVSSP4 ?
[01:17:17] <atom1> for a 7i46
[01:17:25] <PCW> PIN_SVSS4_8_48
[01:17:27] <PCW> but anyway the error in you pin file is the tx and rx pins
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[01:18:25] <atom1> what's wrong with them?
[01:18:31] <atom1> i copied em from another ss file
[01:19:30] <PCW> Sorry they are OK, not sure where the pin file problem is
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[01:21:14] <atom1> there are sss files in the directory, i wonder why they're not in the source file
[01:22:19] <PCW> There may actually be a bug where you cannot have a single sserial channel
[01:22:33] <atom1> aww
[01:22:47] <atom1> i could remove the pwm i think, i probably won't use it
[01:23:49] <atom1> i wonder if it falls on the tx rx pins of the 7i47 though
[01:24:42] <atom1> nope, both are TX
[01:25:16] <atom1> TX2 TX3
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[01:26:21] <eric_unterhausen> what's the likelihood that I can get a mesa 5i21 to work in a pci riser?
[01:26:37] <atom1> i think IO 6 & 21 would work though
[01:26:49] <atom1> those were moved to NullTag
[01:27:04] <atom1> that would be Tx1 Rx1 i think
[01:27:13] <PCW> Depends on the PCI riser quality.. Andy had one working until the wires started to break...
[01:27:29] <eric_unterhausen> nice
[01:27:37] <eric_unterhausen> this one looks good, but I forget where I got it
[01:28:20] <PCW> as long as it just wires it should be fine
[01:28:23] <Tecan> is it safe to upgrade to 12.04 ?
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[01:28:33] <PCW> no
[01:28:41] <Tecan> updates are cool tho ?
[01:29:11] <eric_unterhausen> my understanding is you can run 12.04 if you take the real time kernel from 10
[01:29:30] <PCW> well its bleeding edge (no kernel updates if you want to keep running LinuxCNC)
[01:29:34] <Tecan> or compile a new one
[01:29:44] <PCW> 12.04/Xenomai
[01:29:44] <CaptHindsight> working on support real time 3.8 kernels, should be working over the summer
[01:29:47] <eric_unterhausen> I suspect the kernel issue will be fixed soon
[01:30:31] <CaptHindsight> ARM has 3.8 working with xenomai so x86 has some catching up to do
[01:31:32] <PCW> I can probably fix the 'need more than 1 sserial channel' issue but its a fair amount of pain
[01:32:08] <atom1> PCW, updated the vhd file:
http://tom-itx.dyndns.org:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/bitfiles/
[01:32:16] <atom1> i think that's ok
[01:33:00] <PCW> and you have a spare sserial channel!
[01:33:11] <atom1> now to compile it..
[01:34:11] <Tecan> whatever version its at it runs awesome
[01:34:17] <Tecan> why change :)
[01:34:48] <atom1> do you know where it puts the generated files?
[01:34:49] <Tecan> linux kinda took a bumpy ride there for a while
[01:34:53] <eric_unterhausen> my desktop crashed multiple times a day with 10.04
[01:35:21] <eric_unterhausen> 12.04 took some getting used to, but it has yet to crash
[01:35:28] <PCW> source directory
[01:35:44] <atom1> time to call in the big boys:
[01:35:48] <atom1> FATAL_ERROR:Xst:xstmacronode.c:109:1.35 - Invalid In Port Name : D from A, index==-1 For technical support on this issue, please visit
http://www.xilinx.com/support.
[01:37:17] <PCW> you have the instance number wrong to the added sserials
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[01:37:30] <PCW> s/to/for/
[01:38:45] <atom1> it should be 2 shouldn't it?
[01:38:53] <atom1> in the top structure
[01:39:17] <atom1> try refresh on your brouser
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[01:40:54] <atom1> i also removed the unused lines below where i added them
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[01:41:17] <PCW> in moduleID section the number orf sserials stays 01
[01:41:19] <PCW> in pin section the instance stays 00
[01:41:33] <atom1> oh
[01:41:52] <atom1> even though you added another?
[01:42:22] <PCW> each sserial module can have 8 channels so rx,ts 0,1 are both using sserial 00
[01:42:29] <atom1> gotcha
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[01:44:50] <atom1> FATAL_ERROR:Xst:xstmacronode.c:109:1.35 - Invalid In Port Name : D from A, index==-1 For technical support on this issue, please visit
http://www.xilinx.com/support.
[01:45:57] <atom1> instance is 01 and tx rx 1 & 0 are 00
[01:46:15] <PCW> instance must be 00
[01:46:26] <atom1> in the top structure?
[01:46:42] <PCW> (the first 8 channel sserial module)
[01:47:00] <atom1> yes, below but what about the top structure instance count?
[01:47:23] <PCW> no thats the count or sserial modules, its 1
[01:47:30] <PCW> count of
[01:47:59] <atom1> in the top... yes
[01:48:03] <atom1> it's set to 01
[01:48:14] <atom1> in the bottom structure they're all 00
[01:48:46] <PCW> that should be right
[01:49:10] <atom1> i'll post
[01:51:19] <atom1> new vhd posted
[01:52:05] <atom1> running again..
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[01:53:19] <atom1> same fatal error
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[01:57:54] <PCW> can you try the svss4_8 config and see if it completes just to rule out some version/option related problem
[01:58:45] <atom1> PIN_SVSS4_8_48.vhd ?
[01:58:55] <PCW> yes
[01:59:06] <atom1> add it to the libs?
[01:59:19] <PCW> its already there
[01:59:22] <atom1> ok
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[02:00:43] <PCW> make sure you only have one pin file uncommented
[02:00:52] <atom1> :D
[02:01:19] <atom1> running now
[02:03:41] <atom1> what about the enable pin on the sserial? you said 7i47 doesn't use it. does that matter?
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[02:08:44] <PCW> trying it here
[02:08:45] <PCW> OK same error
[02:09:52] <atom1> PIN_SVSS4_8_48 done
[02:13:09] <atom1> except i don't know where it put the files
[02:14:38] <PCW> in the source directory (named TopEPPHostmot2.bit)
[02:15:33] <PCW> probably something subtle broken in the PIN file
[02:15:54] <atom1> i sure don't see it
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[02:21:27] <atom1> i went past the "Implement Design" to "Generate Programming File" and it showed up
[02:21:31] <atom1> i didn't see it before that
[02:26:33] <PCW> Ill take a look later
[02:26:38] <PCW> bbl
[02:26:41] <atom1> np
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[02:26:42] <atom1> thanks
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[02:34:21] <atom1> pcw_home, I don't see the PIN_SVST2_4_7I47SS_48 listed in the Hierarchy list in xilinx if that matters
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[02:40:23] <Tom_itx> i'll check in later
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[05:42:01] <CaptHindsight> I bet this cost way over $1k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3r7lpO8qZI
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