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[03:31:42] <MacGalempsy> anyone working on fun stuff tonight?
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[08:12:11] <kengu> umm.. ncstudio is again winning against me. too bad the system is working properly in other means and thus not a linuxcnc conversion yet. it is just not willing to eat my gcode.
[08:12:20] <kengu> (usually this helps)
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[11:06:54] <skunkworks> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IRTwHiC8Dk
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[11:28:02] <archivist> I just watched
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR9rCFavFjU too :)
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[11:45:55] <jthornton> what are we watching?
[11:48:01] <archivist> first id a robot arm, the second is the ether cat demo (link on mailing list)
[11:48:22] <archivist> and any other cnc porn
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[12:39:05] <jthornton> crap it is 3 degrees C outside
[12:39:58] <archivist> it got down to that indoors last winter
[12:40:47] <jthornton> ouch
[12:41:51] <kengu> it is -2C or likes outside and +22C inside
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[12:42:22] <kengu> great chinese router bit did snap
[12:42:54] <archivist> why you must ask yourself
[12:44:17] <archivist> climb cutting, flexible machine, work moved, bite too large, and other assorted errors like a weak bit
[12:44:35] <kengu> i go for the last one. it was not a question to start with
[12:45:09] <archivist> last is probably least likely :)
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[14:30:44] <mrsun> hmm, is it wise to put a big cap on a switched voltage source?
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[14:36:32] <archivist> if a proper switch mode psu depends, too large and it may struggle to charge it at switch on
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[14:38:23] <archivist> ticking is a sign of it going into foldback protection and shutting down then trying again
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[15:05:28] <smart210> hello
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[15:06:27] <skunkworks_> hello!
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[15:58:09] <JT_Shop> hello
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[16:02:11] <JT_Shop> Houston we have ignition
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[16:49:36] <IchGuckLive> Hi all B)
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[16:57:53] <ve7it> cool 5 axis wood machine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YfMiUrIKmjg
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[17:03:36] <IchGuckLive> ve7it: if you got sutch a mashine let it mill better materials then wood
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[17:17:35] <IchGuckLive> somenewguy: ? did you get over it
[17:33:15] <IchGuckLive> i did today a nice tutorial on Linuxcnc CRC Sub one tool Different Diameters Rough,Finish
[17:34:07] <IchGuckLive> i try to uplod it this hour
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[17:59:10] <IchGuckLive> ;-) its up and will be online short
[17:59:48] <IchGuckLive> whow that wars the fastest on youtube i ever got
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zw_TIX4ofA
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[18:00:41] <IchGuckLive> PLEASE can some check the quality and the audio
[18:01:57] <IchGuckLive> as a special regard Requested by somenewguy
[18:02:48] <IchGuckLive> now tumbnails are also visible so i guess all is ok
[18:03:30] <IchGuckLive> Mono talk today
[18:04:03] <IchGuckLive> <- alone in the CNC heven O.O
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[18:15:03] <IchGuckLive> im off BYE
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[20:02:57] <andypugh> My lathe is too puny. But the mill looks like it can make a decent lathe:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/tqqRph5lzv1Kvr-l0RrU-NMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
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[20:19:52] <JT_Shop> interesting setup
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[20:51:16] <andypugh> Working out the G-code is tying my brain in knots.
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[20:52:05] <andypugh> It's a mill setup, but the tool is on the table and the work is in the spindle..
[20:52:49] <andypugh> It's a slight pity that I can't get the over-arm on.
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[21:04:14] <false> Hey guys
[21:05:16] <false> quick question, is it possible to limit the count on a software encoder? So when it would pass 25 it will automatically rollover to 0?
[21:06:10] <PCW> I think there's a mod component (or should be)
[21:06:52] <false> I searched but couldn't find it, but if it's there I'll go and try again.
[21:07:41] <alex_joni> false: if all fails you can set up a comp and just reset the encoder count when > 25
[21:07:54] <alex_joni> but it depends how accurate you need the counts
[21:08:02] <false> I thought about doing it from CL, the rate is very very low.
[21:08:20] <false> But I think auto rollover is cleaner solution
[21:08:48] <false> It's from the atc axis and the rate is about 3hz
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[21:09:24] <false> alex_joni: I'll keep that in mind
[21:10:26] <alex_joni> doesn't your encoder have a z pulse?
[21:10:43] <alex_joni> you could use that to autoreset the encoder on each pass
[21:10:55] <false> It's a disc with indents and a proximity sensor so no index
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[21:13:38] <_DJ_> gn8
[21:13:45] <false> goodnight
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[21:14:16] <false> The disc only has 10 indents, and there are 25 pockets so it makes multiple passes for a complete round of the turret. There is another proximity sensor right near the pockets, and pocket #1 has a small steel bar on it that triggers this. <<< So why don't I use that you ask me? My answer: well I didn't think of it till now :P
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[21:15:42] <alex_joni> false: well, now it's obvious why it's there
[21:15:44] <alex_joni> :)
[21:16:06] <alex_joni> I'd still trigger an error if count > 25
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[21:17:25] <false> I will definitely do that, can't be to carefull
[21:17:53] <false> I'm already using it for homing the turrent, sometimes it just helps to talk about it (and not to youself)
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[21:26:59] <kengu> today i learned that the spindle motor on one mill is water cooled not air cooled
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[21:43:38] <alex_joni> false: I often talk to myself
[21:43:46] <alex_joni> sometimes we all need expert advice :)))
[21:43:55] <false> :P
[21:43:55] <alex_joni> j/k
[21:44:15] <false> thanks, back to my whiteboard.
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[22:50:11] <andypugh> vey short video of me abusing my milling machine:
http://youtu.be/a_qEwL9vi3g
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[22:52:03] <JT_Shop> making a step pulley?
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[22:52:37] <Tom_itx> that must be the casting you had done
[22:53:41] <andypugh> Aye, that it be.
[22:54:22] <andypugh> It's the motor-side pulley to drive the Rivett. It needs to be that sort of size to keep the belt clear of the lathe bed
[22:55:20] <andypugh> For the pattern I could just about get away with jacking the headstock up on some nuts, but that wasn't going to work for the casting, and I need to machine a crown into the steps too.
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[22:58:42] <andypugh> Note the "Vertical Head of Damocles" :-)
[22:58:49] <kwallace1> andypugh: I like it. You do good work.
[22:59:17] <Tom_itx> are they radiused or flat?
[22:59:37] <Tom_itx> err crown.. nevermind
[22:59:47] <andypugh> Radiused. ("crowned" is the phrase)
[22:59:55] <Tom_itx> i just saw that
[23:00:47] <Tom_itx> are you gonna program a radius or short linear moves?
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[23:03:21] <andypugh> G3
[23:03:57] <DrNoboto> crowned pulleys...
[23:03:58] <DrNoboto> aewsome
[23:04:14] <andypugh> It's really tedious G-code, as the vagaries of the casting mean that it cuts a lot of air.
[23:04:27] <kwallace1> I seem to recall mine looking more like the center third crowned (radiusly) with each outer third beveled. I suppose it doesn't matter.
[23:04:30] <DrNoboto> on the plus side, air cuts really well
[23:04:31] <DrNoboto> :)
[23:05:02] <Tom_itx> crowned pulleys is way old school
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[23:06:09] <andypugh> The Rivett is way old-school.
[23:06:25] <kwallace1> I wonder if M'sHB has standard flat pulley forms?
[23:07:12] <kwallace1> Oops, I used up a wonder.
[23:07:14] <andypugh> It lists a whole range of opinions :-)
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[23:10:51] <andypugh> My 1943 edition says "Different authorities recommend very different amounts of crown" 1/20th diameter for leather, and 1/150th for cotton. Another recommends 1/16" to 1/8" per inch of width.
[23:11:07] <andypugh> So I have gone for 1mm of crown, which looks about right :-)
[23:11:48] <Tom_itx> i wonder if that's even in the Machinist's Handbook
[23:12:57] <andypugh> I just quoted from my 1943 Machinery's Handbook.
[23:13:37] <andypugh> I would prefer an older one still, as I mainly work with teens and twenties tech.
[23:14:08] <Tom_itx> mine's the 25th
[23:14:33] <CaptHindsight> following the logic they use for justifying new textbooks here, that 1943 Handbook is only good for old machines not new ones
[23:14:44] <kwallace1> http://www.wallacecompany.com/old_lathe/dcp_6918-1a.jpg Not much crown here.
[23:15:37] <roycroft> machinery's handbook has not grown in size over the years
[23:15:51] <Tom_itx> not very much
[23:15:53] <roycroft> in newer editions, in order to add new material they have to remove some material
[23:15:57] <roycroft> no, not really at all
[23:16:08] <roycroft> it still has to fit in the middle drawer of a kennedy toolbox
[23:16:14] <roycroft> and that drawer has not grown over the years :)
[23:16:16] <Tom_itx> true
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[23:16:41] <roycroft> i have a 20th edition and a 38th edition, and there are quite a few differences
[23:16:59] <andypugh> Ooh, do I want the tatty 5th edition on eBay? (1915)
[23:17:00] <roycroft> iirc, some of the math tables are left out of the newer editions, which is no big deal
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[23:17:27] <roycroft> i do recall there were some other significant omissions in the newer version, though
[23:17:57] <roycroft> i believe some of the older threading specifications are left out of the modern editions
[23:18:22] <roycroft> i can't recall other differences off-hand, and i can't be bothered to go compare them right now
[23:18:47] <roycroft> but i can say with confidence that it is useful to have older editions, even though you might refer to a current one 98% of the time
[23:19:04] <roycroft> and from a practical point of view, not just because one might be a collector
[23:19:23] <roycroft> and if that tatty 5th edition is cheap enough i'd get it :)
[23:20:09] <roycroft> oh, sorry, my older one is a 12th edition not 20th
[23:20:11] <roycroft> it's from the war
[23:20:28] <roycroft> and i wonder if the reason so many of that edition are available is because of the war
[23:20:48] <andypugh> I have a 12th, which is very handy.
[23:21:06] <roycroft> and my newer one is a 28th edition
[23:21:06] <andypugh> You can buy a re-printed first edition (1914) for £33.
[23:21:09] <roycroft> 38th hasn't come out yet :)
[23:21:14] <Tom_itx> the machinists' ready reference is another good one to have
[23:21:20] <Tom_itx> spiral bound
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[23:22:53] <andypugh> Also handy:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Zeus-Precision-Engineers-Metric-Data-Book-Charts-Reference-Tables-Drill-Tap-Size-/190580021532
[23:24:16] <andypugh> Night all.
[23:24:26] <Tom_itx> later andy
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[23:59:56] <DrNoboto> that zeus precision book even has a g-code reference
[23:59:57] <DrNoboto> nifty
