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[02:31:33] <Tom_L> http://www.mouser.com/new/Axiomtek/Axiomtek-PICO830-ITX-Boards/?utm_medium=email&utm_source=november2013&utm_campaign=cm-general-animated&utm_content=featuredlm
[02:31:41] <Tom_L> possible lcnc contender?
[02:32:25] <Tom_L> comes with full-size and half-size PCI Express Mini Card slots
[02:33:37] <Tom_L> mmm a bit pricey
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[02:40:54] <pcw_home> The baytrail CPUs should be a lot nicer (J1850 etc)
[02:41:24] <Tom_itx> it just showed up in the email box
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[02:50:43] <uw> $400 give me a break
[02:57:15] <pcw_home> http://ee.gigabyte.com/products/page/mb/ga-c1037un-eurev_10/
[02:57:16] <pcw_home> looks fairly nice
[02:58:08] <pcw_home> though too new to be available yet
[03:00:40] <pcw_home> baytrail:
[03:00:42] <pcw_home> http://www.anandtech.com/show/7453/ecs-reveals-bay-traild-miniitx-line
[03:02:12] <Tom_itx> do the daughter cards plug into the pcie cards just as they do the 5i25 for example?
[03:02:26] <pcw_home> yes
[03:02:43] <Tom_itx> some sort of mini db25?
[03:03:41] <pcw_home> Oh we dont have a miniPCIE card (just 6I25 which has same connectors as 5I25)
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[03:04:16] <pcw_home> you also have to be careful when the advertise min-pcie (they may be USB only)
[03:05:37] <skunkworks> look at this - the newest emco lathe has the index extended...
http://electronicsam.com/images/emco/newencoder.JPG
[03:06:08] <skunkworks> wonder if they had issues with the software that they where using on the newer computers.
[03:06:37] <skunkworks> the older encoder
http://electronicsam.com/images/emco/oldencoder.JPG
[03:06:47] <skunkworks> both work just fine with linuxcnc and the printer port.
[03:07:08] <skunkworks> http://electronicsam.com/images/emco/rpmmeter.JPG
[03:07:23] <skunkworks> remind me to extend the bar graph max
[03:07:49] <skunkworks> that is using the 100 count + index
[03:08:04] <Jymmm> skunkworks: Remember to extend the bardgraph
[03:08:23] <skunkworks> thanks!
[03:08:49] <Jymmm> skunkworks: send yourself an email
[03:09:15] <skunkworks> I will just look in the irc history
[03:09:37] <Jymmm> lol
[03:10:20] <Tom_itx> pcw_home, the 5i25 & 6i25 are functionally the same?
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[03:11:34] <pcw_home> yes
[03:12:11] <Tom_itx> i assume on motherboards there is some standard location for the PCIE slot?
[03:13:04] <Tom_itx> (board mouning concerns)
[03:15:04] <jdh> http://www.hossmachine.info/cnc_conversion.html#Fabrication
[03:15:10] <jdh> <urk>
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[03:19:58] <pcw_home> Yeah they are standard (for standard mini-itx cases)
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[04:53:45] <uw> man that website is some aids
[04:54:40] <uw> srs aids
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[08:39:41] <RyanS> Not sure if I can be bothered converting my three-phase drill press myself. I was quoted about $500 to have it done. Doesn't sound too bad
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[10:26:11] <dchevak> hello
[10:26:59] <dchevak> just checking if I had everything installed right
[10:28:03] <dchevak> I guess I will try again later
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[15:21:09] <jmasseo> the emco pc50
[15:21:15] <jmasseo> i guess this thing is ONLY for training?
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[17:56:22] <IchGuckLive> hi all B)
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[18:04:50] <_DJ_> hoi
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[18:07:06] <IchGuckLive> its snowing outside
[18:07:27] <Tom_itx> yes it is
[18:07:43] <pcw_home> is not
[18:07:56] <Tom_itx> is so
[18:08:32] <pcw_home> only wind-ing here
[18:09:11] <Tom_itx> 24� F Light Snow
[18:09:35] <IchGuckLive> i got -1Deg C
[18:09:41] <Tom_itx> low Sat 14 F
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[18:10:34] <Tom_itx> that's like 30 F isn't it?
[18:10:59] * Tom_itx <- didn't do the math
[18:12:21] <WalterN> bleh
[18:12:30] <WalterN> complicated parts
[18:12:38] <WalterN> they want a quote
[18:12:56] <pcw_home> 60F and 25 MPH winds
[18:13:11] <WalterN> a 5-axes CNC mill would be great for this
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[18:13:39] <Tom_itx> how complicated?
[18:14:05] <WalterN> its a tool holder of some sort, for the logging industry
[18:14:29] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: 5 axis is always gread but only for spare parts and noone is gone pay that price
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[18:15:02] <Tom_itx> anonimasu makes stuff for that industry
[18:15:10] <Tom_itx> haven't seen him in quite a while
[18:15:17] <WalterN> I'm having a bit of trouble building a 3D model in my head based on the drawings
[18:15:41] <Tom_itx> maybe you don't need a full 3d model
[18:15:46] <Tom_itx> just throw tools at it
[18:15:54] <Tom_itx> profile with tools
[18:16:10] <WalterN> the problem is that if I cant build it in my head it cant exist :P
[18:18:21] <Tom_itx> bad drawings?
[18:18:33] <WalterN> the drawings seem fine
[18:18:40] <WalterN> just complicated
[18:18:55] <WalterN> a lot of angles and little cuts
[18:18:56] <Tom_itx> i hate when engineers reference dimenstions from stupid locations
[18:19:39] <Tom_itx> then you gotta sit there and calculate a bunch of stuff just to get what they want
[18:19:40] <IchGuckLive> WalterN: you got a profechenol CAD CAM
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[18:20:00] <WalterN> oh hey, I spy a profile thats not specified
[18:20:51] <WalterN> or wait, did they just define the radius?
[18:20:53] <Tom_itx> anymore here the companies send you the model and if it disagrees with the print you use the model
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[18:22:08] <WalterN> that is such an insanely stupid way to define a hole
[18:22:29] <Tom_itx> engineer tryin to outsmart ya?
[18:22:38] <WalterN> I cant really tell for sure if thats what its supposed to define, but I dont see anything else that it could be defining
[18:25:08] <WalterN> they want it out of 4140 and then heat treated
[18:25:22] <WalterN> to 36-40RC
[18:25:32] <archivist> engineer that never used a machine too designs stuff like that
[18:26:23] <Tom_itx> i sometimes think they should be requied to work in our shoes at least for a week or two
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[18:27:39] <WalterN> well
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[18:27:56] <WalterN> its some parts this company has made by this one guy for years
[18:28:08] <WalterN> I guess last week that one guy died
[18:28:09] <Tom_itx> did he retire?
[18:28:14] <Tom_itx> woops
[18:28:27] <WalterN> yeah
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[18:28:58] <WalterN> I dont think prints existed for this stuff before the guy died and they were going off of sample parts?
[18:29:01] <WalterN> or something
[18:29:07] <IchGuckLive> thick snow outside the hell of connecting towards town
[18:29:39] <WalterN> but anyways, we are getting another lathe today
[18:29:49] <WalterN> an older okuma
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[18:30:02] <Tom_itx> this isn't a lathe part is it?
[18:30:09] <Tom_itx> we had an Okuma Kadet
[18:30:15] <WalterN> no, its all mill
[18:30:15] <Tom_itx> i kinda liked it
[18:30:32] <Tom_itx> we did most of the lathe jobs as MDI parts
[18:30:40] <Tom_itx> then saved them back from the machine
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[18:34:05] <Tom_itx> i still have the pocket reference to the kadet if you have questions
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[21:11:24] <andypugh> Well, I just changed the earspeaker in this iPhone, and it still doesn't work.
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[21:19:38] <Jymmm> http://thebladebrownshow.wordpress.com/2013/11/13/lawsuit-paid-in-full-samsung-pays-apple-1-billion-sending-30-trucks-full-of-5-cent-coins/
[21:20:07] <kengu> Jymmm: again
[21:20:26] <Jymmm> ?
[21:21:43] <kengu> http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2012/aug/29/apple-samsung-trucks-nickels-fake
[21:22:35] <mrsun_> a dust collector that always stays on Z zero ... an extra stepper that manges that maybe? :P
[21:23:08] <Jymmm> mrsun_: spring loaded
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[21:25:54] <mrsun_> hmm true
[21:25:55] <mrsun_> i gues
[21:25:57] <mrsun_> guess
[21:26:36] <mrsun_> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/996636_10152015648853648_1233040468_n.jpg got one of those mounted to the spindle today ... got about 30mm of "shroud" and damn its nice to get rid of the mdf dust flying everywhere!
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[21:40:52] <andypugh> Jymmm: Do you think that there really are 80 nickels in existence for every person in the US>
[21:41:43] <Jymmm> andypugh: No idea, I'm not a US Mint =)
[21:42:21] <andypugh> That would mean having more nickels than brain cells.
[21:42:56] <Jymmm> no clue, I didn't do the math
[21:43:06] <Jymmm> Aw fudge
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/blog/2012/aug/29/apple-samsung-trucks-nickels-fake
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[21:43:29] <kengu> mrsun_: where you you get those
[21:43:36] <kengu> (;
[21:43:42] <kengu> nice construction or likes
[21:44:18] <kengu> i did break a 6mm bit today.
[21:46:52] <kengu> mrsun_:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cxa37q386mssxwc/20130916_003.jpg work in progress..
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[21:51:58] <mrsun_> kengu, =) get what ?
[21:53:18] <kengu> mrsun_: the (; was supposed to be on the same line
[21:53:34] <kengu> as in where can I buy those (;
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[21:54:09] <kengu> but yeah. i have to go shopping for some brushes as the plasma is now working and it is again time to focus on router
[21:54:23] <mrsun_> kengu, buy what?
[21:54:36] <kengu> mrsun_: your construction
[21:54:45] <mrsun_> huh ? homebuilt? :P
[21:54:59] <kengu> yes. it sure looks like homebuilt.
[21:55:00] <mrsun_> the brushes are slaughtered paintbrushes
[21:55:06] <kengu> i can see that
[21:55:11] <kengu> the joke went. ok.
[21:55:15] <mrsun_> haha :P
[21:55:21] <kengu> it is late here
[21:55:24] <kengu> 23:55
[21:55:37] <kengu> and I am still running the router atm
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[22:02:43] * JT_Shop gets a kick out of mhaberler's response to "it don't work any one have any ideas?" type of question
[22:04:22] <_DJ_> gn8
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[22:06:21] <kengu> mrsun_: do you have recommendations on those brushes. some properties to look for except the lenght ofcourse
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[22:08:20] <mrsun_> nah, its my first dust collection thingie
[22:08:25] <mrsun_> i just took what i had and trying it out =)
[22:09:21] <mrsun_> i wanted em somewhat stiff so they do not just suck into the vacuum hose, and still flexible enough to not lift the Z axis if to many stands straight down at the same time =)
[22:09:26] <mrsun_> and paint brushes felt just right :P
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[22:45:48] <andypugh> I think I would have just bought brush-strip. Call me old-fashioned.
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[22:46:38] <andypugh> http://www.ebay.com/itm/400399957452 as a random example
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[23:34:13] <JT_Shop> odd, my GS2 lost the ramp configuration
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[23:35:26] <PCW> it forgot?
[23:36:10] <JT_Shop> I guess, it went back to default settings
[23:37:39] <PCW> battery backed? (I would think EEPROM nowadays)
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[23:40:14] <uw> andypugh, those things work great
[23:40:35] <uw> i have a 48" one thats a towbehind, BAMF
[23:47:02] <JT_Shop> doesn't seem to have a battery...
[23:57:28] * JT_Shop doesn't know why Rudy liked Tutti Fruity so much
