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[07:39:24] <Zverik_h> великолепно, в Киеве блокада
[07:39:32] <Zverik_h> http://lenta.ru/news/2014/02/18/block/
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[08:21:43] <chervin> лол а что если сделать сервис маленький
[08:21:51] <chervin> с осмокартой
[08:21:58] <chervin> но на карте можно публично делать всё что угодно
[08:22:10] <chervin> и это всё будет висеть громоздкой кучей над тайлами
[08:22:17] <chervin> имею ввиду маркера ставить, полигоны рисовать етц
[08:22:22] <chervin> это ж такой ад будет, но прикольно
[08:22:28] <chervin> обожаю хаос
[08:22:28] <chervin> !
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[10:48:43] <Hind> chervin: http://wikimapia.org
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[12:02:56] <Zverik> наконец-то позвонили из Пскова с настоящим предложением встретиться
[12:09:30] <freeExec> Zverik: хех пробовал вчера титры делать, на 5 минут ушёл час, перспективы не завидные
[12:09:54] <Zverik> freeExec: да, без опыта поначалу будет медленно :)
[12:10:17] <freeExec> ну и не понятно на сколько длинными надо делать фразы
[12:10:18] <Zverik> нужно разделять — сначала, открыв в одном окне видео, в другом — блокнот, просто записываешь подряд всё, что говорят
[12:10:39] <freeExec> а я сразу в программе
[12:10:40] <Komzpa> а потом таймстааампы
[12:10:45] <Zverik> неее
[12:10:51] <Zverik> если всё совмещать, убьёшься
[12:11:07] <Zverik> второй шаг — разбить на фразы и контролировать макс. ширину
[12:11:13] <freeExec> и стоил и всяки аааа иии вот писать ?
[12:11:22] <Zverik> третий — загрузить фразы и звук в aegisub и расставлять таймстампы
[12:11:23] <Komzpa> нет
[12:12:11] <Zverik> ну и четвёртый — посмотреть ролик с субтитрами и проверить на опечатки, вылеты по длине, пропущенные фразы и т.п.
[12:12:28] <Zverik> это я как человек, осубтитровавший много часов видео, говорю :)
[12:12:48] <Zverik> по ширине — максимум 40 символов
[12:12:54] <freeExec> что-то не очень представляю как потом вразы на время разбивать
[12:13:13] <Komzpa> сначала ентером по длине
[12:13:39] <Zverik> длина пофиг, сначала по логическим блокам
[12:13:47] <Zverik> запятые, паузы, вот это всё
[12:13:54] <freeExec> и ещё стоит ли паузы включать в титры или их вырезать
[12:14:08] <Zverik> очень бесит, когда в одной строчке склеены фразы, между которыми полминуты паузы
[12:14:38] <Zverik> freeExec: как можно включить паузы? в них же нет букв
[12:15:40] <freeExec> ну вот эту паузу можно поделить и половинки вклеить в конец предыдущего и начало следующего блоков, а можно блоки заканчивать где кончилась речь
[12:17:30] <Zverik> я не очень понял, всё равно. «что-то сказал» (строка субтитров) — пауза — «сказал ещё» (другой титр)
[12:17:42] <freeExec> вот что у меня вчера вышло https://www.dropbox.com/s/yolhehzt88t6iqe/ommm1.ass
[12:18:26] <freeExec> как я понимаю можно сделать что как только он сказал всё титры пропали, а можно их подержать до след
[12:21:04] <Zverik> единственная нормальная статья по теме, которую смог найти, — http://www.animereactor.ru/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=11 (оформление дикое, но текст здравый)
[12:21:22] <Zverik> к сожалению, сайт академии фансаба с великими статьями умер, и копии нет
[12:23:47] <Zverik> хотя... есть же. Надо сделать зеркало
[12:31:37] <Zverik> freeExec: очень хорошее начало. Есть пара комментариев. Во-первых, числа до 10 нужно писать словами. Во-вторых, междометия не нужны
[12:31:57] <Zverik> в-третьих, не обязательно каждую строчку субтитровать в докладах, можно по две-три объединять
[12:41:46] <freeExec> что-то в третьих не совсем понял
[12:43:04] <Zverik> титры могут состоять из нескольких строк
[12:43:15] <Zverik> у тебя там каждая мелочь таймирована, включая «и вот»
[12:43:58] <freeExec> я что-то не нашёл перевод строки в программе
[12:44:44] <freeExec> и ограничение в 40 символов учитывать или нет
[12:45:04] <Zverik> freeExec: какой программой пользуешься?
[12:45:10] <Zverik> 40 символов — обязательно учитывать
[12:45:26] <Zverik> внимательно читай http://www.animereactor.ru/index.php?ind=reviews&op=entry_view&iden=11
[12:45:31] <freeExec> какую ты писал
[12:45:59] <Zverik> в aegisub перевод — это \n
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[13:26:57] <andrewsh> Matt Smith тестирует ReactOS: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5b/Alksnis-Bragin.jpg
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[19:19:08] <unnicked270> hello
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[20:22:48] <Zverik> я придумал, как правильно делать плагин для видеомаппинга в josm
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[20:23:11] <Zverik> vlc + удалённое управление. И всё.
[20:23:28] <Zverik> в josm просто маленькая панелька с play/pause и средствами привязки
[20:25:31] <Zverik> был рад услужить, не забудьте создать тему на форуме, когда напишете плагин
[20:29:53] <Zverik> (в волшебном блокноте идей осталась последняя страница, скоро распакую новый, наконец)
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